The demise of the Maple Leafs: Top Ten

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  1. chooch*

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    There's so many low points since 1967. anyone who read '67 fill in the blanks:

    1. Ballards childish(no pun) reign; what did King know?

    2. trading sittler

    3. trading lanny

    4. bag headed neilson episode

    5. jim gregory

    6. gord stellick

    7. trading palmateer/ his arm injury

    8. keon 's falling out (is this the real curse; not that I care)

    9. cam connors goal

    10. John Brophy

    hm: popularity of Dougie given his st louis past; return of Punch
     
  2. arrbez

    arrbez bad chi

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    I consider Dougie one of the high points, personally. Who cares if he had a checkered past? He was one of the major forces bringing the Leafs back to respectability in the early 1990's
     
  3. Ogopogo*

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    John Ferguson as GM must be on a list of why the Leafs suck.

    The senior citizens that he added at the trade deadline were hilarious. How this guy still has a job is a complete mystery. I guess the President of the club is dumber than the GM.
     
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    I would say the pedophilia scandal at Maple Leaf Gardens is one of the worst.
     
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    Signing Cujo when Jim Carrey was available was hard to fathom.
     
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    disgusting, but not really hockey related though
     
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    Ummm.....Gretzky's high stick?
     
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    that, coupled with Gretzky being unspeakably good in that series
     
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    I think 2, 3 and 8 are all sub-categories of 1

    and I'd say the Montreal Canadiens should be the #2 factor of the Leafs' demise. Nothing about the Canadiens in particular - just the fact that, without Montreal around, Toronto would rival Detroit for most storied hockey franchise (Yes I know Toronto has more cups than Detroit, but without Montreal, Detroit would have won 7 or 8 more cups from the 40s and 50s).
     
  10. mooseOAK*

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    That's your top ten right there.
     
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    1) Ballard

    I knew it was the beginning of the end when I saw Sittler without the "C."
     
  12. Ogopogo*

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    Funny but, way out of context.
     
  13. Chili

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    Who did the Leafs lose in the '67 expansion draft?

    They had an old team and I'm wondering if they lost some good young players (can't remember).

    I'm also wondering who they got back when they dealt Bernie Parent.
     
  14. mooseOAK*

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    They lost Red Kelly, Terry Sawchuk, Larry Jeffrey, Eddie Shack, Kent Douglas, Bob Baun, and Brit Selby and other lesser players.

    Parent was traded for Favell.
     
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    If you look up 'pathetic' in the dictionary, this thread would be there.
     
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    In Ferguson's defense there are worse GMs in the league than him. A lot of the deals he's made so far have been reaction deals to public and media pressure. If he can learn to ignore the braying of the herd I think he has enough hockey sense to make some better deals.
     
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    Thanks. Doesn't seem they were hit any harder than the other original six. They definitely lost some depth Kelly and Sawchuk were near the end of their careers and it seems like they reacquired Baun and Shack.

    Parent for Favell hurt though.
     
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    I agree with a lot of those ones. At the top of the list as always is Ballard. He made it very personal with trades. If a guy was religious, or if a guy went to the WHA he'd let him go for the saving of $5000. Many players have mentioned that it was as if it was more important for him to be on the front of a newspaper then to see the team win.

    Letting a Hall of Famer like Gerry Cheevers go didnt help either in '62. But the main thing that had to hurt was the Parent trade. The Leafs trade him and then he goes on to win two Cups the following year with Philly. Also two Conn Smythe Trophies.

    But Ballard is the centre of it all. Trading Lanny away only because Sittler wouldnt wave his no trade clause was prepostrous. What an evil, evil man he was!
     
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    Ballard ruined the franchise and it's still recovering to this day. He occupies spots 1-10 on any list.
     
  20. mooseOAK*

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    The Parent trade was due to Ballard also, Bernie was so pissed off at the Leafs he forced the trade to happen. That's they way things were back then, the minute a player got to the point where Harold had to give him more money he got rid the guy.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be under 'pathetic", but rather 'pathetic attempt to stir controversy" ;)
     
  22. silver_made*

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    someone please explain gilmour's 'checkered past' and this 'pedophilia' talk about ballard. thanks, in advance.
     
  23. chooch*

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    thats the height of hypocrisy; remind me again why you are on this site?

    To tell stories of Kelly Buchberger?
     
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    Sorry, I can't remind you again why I'm on this site, as I have never felt obliged to explain myself to you once , much less would I feel obliged to explain myself again.
     
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    "pedophilia" is overstating it, statutory is more accurate.
     
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