Player Discussion The Bad Granlund Phenomenon Part 4 (mod warning post #393)

[Fire Benning]

Thought exercise: Would Granlund be in the forward lineup of any of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs right now?

 

[F A N]

Thought exercise: Would Granlund be in the forward lineup of any of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs right now?

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size.

I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

 

[MS]

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size.

I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

There's no way he'd be playing for Vegas who are currently scratching Tomas Tatar who has averaged 25 goals/season for the last 4 years.

Maybe he'd play over a similar-level player in Chiasson for Washington.

 

[PM]

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size.

I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

Walker and Boyd have only been in for one game each, likely when Wilson was suspended. That’s a pretty damn low bar.

I wasn’t a fan of Chiasson in Ottawa but his career stats are fairly similar to Granlund. The difference is he’s 6’4 210lbs while Granlund is smaller and more fragile. Pretty easy choice for who I’d want on my fourth line in the playoffs.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Thought exercise: Would Granlund be in the forward lineup of any of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs right now?

Is this a serious question?

I don't think Granlund makes any of the forward lineups of any of the teams that made the playoffs.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size.

I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

Of course you would.

Funny though that you say Granlund would get in ahead of 2 players who only played 1 playoff game each these playoffs (due to injuries to their regulars), and a player who has outproduced Granlund this season.

Funny how you also think he could get into Vegas's lineup despite the fact that Vegas traded away a better player (Leipsic) for an AHLer because they didn't need him.

 

[Fire Benning]

Is this a serious question?

I don't think Granlund makes any of the forward lineups of any of the teams that made the playoffs.

He'd be the guy they barely even knew existed until they have to call him up late in the playoffs when half the team is hurt.

 

[Fire Benning]

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size. I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

Maybe Walker and Boyd (although Walker looked pretty good in game 6) but both were only in the lineup because of injuries/suspension. And Chiasson outscored Granlund this season.

Hard to say. I think he has a good chance of getting into the lineup with Washington. I play Granlund ahead of Walker and Boyd and Chiasson if I don't need his size. I think he can get into Las Vegas' lineup as well.

I'm not so sure.

Tomas Tatar has been a black ace for most of the playoffs and he's had four straight 20 goal seasons.

Even someone like Ryan Carpenter who was on waivers this year outproduced Granlund this season.

Maybe he'd make it in over Ryan Reaves but that's an extremely low bar and he's only played 1 game in this post-season.

 

[MS]

I will say this. If we don't qualify Granlund this summer (we will so it's kind of a moot point), if I was running a competing NHL team he'd be a guy I'd look at on a $600k deal as a 12-13th forward. At that price, he's a useful, versatile depth spare part.

For this godawful crap team, no. You can't just keep bringing the same fringe players back when they've proven themselves to be nothing. This team needs roster turnover, new opportunities for new players to show they can be a part of the future, needs to integrate young players, needs to get bigger and faster.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

I will say this. If we don't qualify Granlund this summer (we will so it's kind of a moot point), if I was running a competing NHL team he'd be a guy I'd look at on a $600k deal as a 12-13th forward. At that price, he's a useful, versatile depth spare part.

For this godawful crap team, no. You can't just keep bringing the same fringe players back when they've proven themselves to be nothing. This team needs roster turnover, new opportunities for new players to show they can be a part of the future, needs to integrate young players, needs to get bigger and faster.

I’m sure any NHL team that you would run would be competitive.

 

[timw33]

I’m sure any NHL team that you would run would be competitive.

Would almost 100% be more competitive than what Benning has trotted out the last few years.

 

[MS]

I’m sure any NHL team that you would run would be competitive.

Anything to actually contribute to what I said?

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Would almost 100% be more competitive than what Benning has trotted out the last few years.

Based on what?

 

[CanaFan]

Based on what?

Based on 28th, 29th, and 26th place finishes for the incumbent. There’s not much room to be worse.

 

[timw33]

Based on what?

If you want to dig through the poster's history, they have shown an ability to evaluate NHL talent at a couple orders of magnitude better than the existing management group, including pushing extremely hard for the signing of Jonathan Marchessault as a UFA 2-3 years ago and the drafting of Brayden Point in the 2014 Draft.

 

[Fire Benning]

I’m sure any NHL team that you would run would be competitive.

He's actually really smart.

 

[Hit the post]

He's actually really smart.

I personally thought Ernie carried you for years.

 

[Melvin]

Anything to actually contribute to what I said?

Hey man, I'm sure the guy who literally joined today just to troll you must be beyond reproach.

 

[F A N]

There's no way he'd be playing for Vegas who are currently scratching Tomas Tatar who has averaged 25 goals/season for the last 4 years.

Maybe he'd play over a similar-level player in Chiasson for Washington.

Of course you would.

Funny though that you say Granlund would get in ahead of 2 players who only played 1 playoff game each these playoffs (due to injuries to their regulars), and a player who has outproduced Granlund this season.

Funny how you also think he could get into Vegas's lineup despite the fact that Vegas traded away a better player (Leipsic) for an AHLer because they didn't need him.

What I replied to is whether he would get into the lineup. Never said he would play every game.

The Knights have been and are winning so the coach isn't messing with the lineup. Normally, it would be insane that Tatar isn't in the lineup.

 

[y2kcanucks]

What I replied to is whether he would get into the lineup. Never said he would play every game.

The Knights have been and are winning so the coach isn't messing with the lineup. Normally, it would be insane that Tatar isn't in the lineup.

And you just ignored our responses as to why he wouldn’t play. But hey, if you think getting into the lineup for 1 game is some cause for celebration....wow.

I stand by my response.

 

[Verviticus]

I’m sure any NHL team that you would run would be competitive.

ms has his share of goofs over the past years but nowhere close to as many as benning makes in his average week or so

 

[CanaFan]

And you just ignored our responses as to why he wouldn’t play. But hey, if you think getting into the lineup for 1 game is some cause for celebration....wow.

I stand by my response.

Maybe he meant a Knights charity exhibition game too. He never said it had to be an NHL game.

 

[F A N]

And you just ignored our responses as to why he wouldn’t play. But hey, if you think getting into the lineup for 1 game is some cause for celebration....wow.

I stand by my response.

It's called answering the question and putting things into context and not rambling on your own tangent. Try learning it.

I think Granlund could play on the 4th line for the Knights. It's not like they have been icing guys that are 4th line mainstays in any NHL lineup. Tatar not being in the lineup does not mean he is a lesser player than fellow former Red Wing Nosek.

 

[y2kcanucks]

It's called answering the question and putting things into context and not rambling on your own tangent. Try learning it.

I think Granlund could play on the 4th line for the Knights. It's not like they have been icing guys that are 4th line mainstays in any NHL lineup. Tatar not being in the lineup does not mean he is a lesser player than fellow former Red Wing Nosek.

Except, as I already mentioned, Vegas already traded away a better 4th line player (Leipsic) for an AHLer because they didn't need him. Do you really think a soft, undersized forward like Granlund who isn't really good at anything would get into their lineup? I just don't see it.

It's not going off on my own tangent, it's refuting your nonsensical logic.

 

[LaVar]

"He’s a two-way guy. I mean, Bergeron is a two-way guy. I would take a few of those."

- Trevor Linden