Rumor: The Athletic, Thomas Drance- Teams are more engaged w. Canucks regarding OEL and Garland trades and not Myers and Miller

[Artemi Panarin]

I don’t believe anything anymore. Every report from Vancouver since the new management has been wrong. Like they throw stuff out there and then when it’s false they make something up lol

It's almost like the new guy isn't a bumbling moron that plays his cards so openly that he gets fined for tampering.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Come on Blake! Get on that OEL deal!

Just want OEL to LA for the chaos.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

OEL is 7mil per with 5 years left. Was good as top pairing D for Canucks last season.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

He was very solid m. He’s adjusted his game perfectly into a shutdown minute munching guy.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

No doubt the Miller offers simply aren't close to what Vancouver wanted, and compared to what this board wanted they're even further off.



Would be hilarious to see Vancouver trade Garland a year after taking on that awful OEL deal to get him Sort of reminds me of Benning.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

He was very solid m. He’s adjusted his game perfectly into a shutdown minute munching guy.

Is that why you guys are trying so hard to move him?

He is not a top pairing guy, nor did he play like one last year. No reason to sugar coat it.

No doubt the Miller offers simply aren't close to what Vancouver wanted, and compared to what this board wanted they're even further off.



Would be hilarious to see Vancouver trade Garland a year after taking on that awful OEL deal to get him Sort of reminds me of Benning.

I for one am shocked that Sakic didn't offer Byram++ or Newhook+1st+Barron, weird eh?

 

[Peter Griffin]

No doubt the Miller offers simply aren't close to what Vancouver wanted, and compared to what this board wanted they're even further off.



Would be hilarious to see Vancouver trade Garland a year after taking on that awful OEL deal to get him Sort of reminds me of Benning.

Trade Garland for what? What are you suggesting that’s laughable? Them trading Garland?

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Oh my God, if we are able to move OEL without retaining on that contract give Allvin GM of the Year right now.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Is that why you guys are trying so hard to move him?

He is not a top pairing guy, nor did he play like one last year. No reason to sugar coat it.


I for one am shocked that Sakic didn't offer Byram++ or Newhook+1st+Barron, weird eh?

Because he makes too much money?…he played like a #3 shutdown guy very well last year. We have Hughes, Dermott and Rathbone on the left.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Because he makes too much money?…he played like a #3 shutdown guy very well last year. We have Hughes, Dermott and Rathbone on the left.

The post I quoted has you saying he was a good #1 pairing D.

A #3 shutdown player is not that. This is why hyperbole is so unnecessary.

His stats and analytics have him as a 4-5 who is trending down. He would be fine on someone's 2nd pair but not as the anchor.

 

[Aqualung]

It would be nice if Canucks could improve defense and clear enough cap room to keep Miller (and Kuzmenko if he’s earned it). But it’s a dream and most teams wants to do a version of this, not just the Canucks.

 

[Cogburn]

Well he had more ice time and points then any D but Hughes. Any other metric puts him as a number two guy, despite being forced into a shutdown role with Myers, and put up great numbers when taken out of that role when Hughes missed games. He was also Arizona's number one for years before coming here, and really outperformed anyone on the Leafs a full season not named Rielly in overall play...so he'd be a number two on the Leafs too.

It would be nice if Canucks could improve defense and clear enough cap room to keep Miller (and Kuzmenko if he’s earned it). But it’s a dream and most teams wants to do a version of this, not just the Canucks.

We have 22 million in cap space, and the most pressing free agents we have aside from Horvat, Miller and Kuz will be Hoglander and Schenn. Pre-emptively clearing Pearson, Dickinson and/or Poolman will give us enough to do anything, even if we do nothing else.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

The post I quoted has you saying he was a good #1 pairing D.

A #3 shutdown player is not that. This is why hyperbole is so unnecessary.

His stats and analytics have him as a 4-5 who is trending down. He would be fine on someone's 2nd pair but not as the anchor.

I never once said he was a good #1 pairing D lmao. He’s a #3 on a cup contending team.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

@McJedi Not sure what you’re laughing at. You’ve provided absolutely zero argument and clearly haven’t watched OEL play. Carry on lmfao

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

That's impossible. All I have read suggests Miller is needed by every team in the league and they will all fight with numerous 1st round picks and top prospects to have him.

That's still true.

Just takes awhile to setup Thunderdome.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I never once said he was a good #1 pairing D lmao. He’s a #3 on a cup contending team.

You disagreed with my post which was calling out someone who did say that. So are you now agreeing?

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

really outperformed anyone on the Leafs a full season not named Rielly in overall play...so he'd be a number two on the Leafs too.

By what metric, exactly?

Justin Holl had better metrics @ 2m. A lot of D did.

I don't get why Canuck fans need to do this. Trying to hype up guys they are stoked to get off the team. No one wants to pay 7m x 5 for a 4-5 dman. Just let it be what it is. Selling him as "someone who was good as a top pairing guy last season" is just so obviously a lie or stretch.

 

[Mikeshane]

Canucks rumors are the 4th largest occupation in North America at the moment.

 

[oceanchild]

It would be nice if Canucks could improve defense and clear enough cap room to keep Miller (and Kuzmenko if he’s earned it). But it’s a dream and most teams wants to do a version of this, not just the Canucks.

I think if you clear out garland, pearson, Miller and OEL you sure could. But that’s a tall order and to also find dmen that raise that raise the bar on that group as part of that is asking a lot.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

The pain of being a Canucks fan, such a rollercoaster of a ride. We gave up our first top 10 pick last year and a second this year, only to look to trade both a year later. It seems new management doesn’t have the balls to move out a big piece and are just going status quo other than a couple top 9 forwards added. I thought last year we had the best 4th line we have seen in about 10 years and they were all able to walk for a 4th round pick. Mikheyev is a redundant piece with our roster as we are loaded at forward, we should have saved the cap space and still traded a forward to reshape our Defence, Myers should be traded for a puck bag if the opportunity presents itself, same with OEL.

At this point I’d keep the core of Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Podkolzin and Lekkerimakki and blow the rest up for picks and prospects.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

If anyone wants a “Top pair of dmen”, Nucks will throw in Myers for free with OEL.

Steal of a deal.

 

[Fatass]

OEL with retention and sweetener. Sure teams would ask about that possibility.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

He was very solid m. He’s adjusted his game perfectly into a shutdown minute munching guy.

He is mediocre. Petry should be worth more.

 

[iFan]

he’s been a solid defensive guy for us, he’s turned Myers game around. I don’t believe most Canuck fans have an issue with OEL’s game, its the contract and where the Canucks are at.

 

[Cogburn]

By what metric, exactly?

Justin Holl had better metrics @ 2m. A lot of D did.

I don't get why Canuck fans need to do this. Trying to hype up guys they are stoked to get off the team. No one wants to pay 7m x 5 for a 4-5 dman. Just let it be what it is. Selling him as "someone who was good as a top pairing guy last season" is just so obviously a lie or stretch.

Not according to Drance, but you keep living in your green skied world there, Muad.

He was our defacto number two guy. Ice time, points, hits, give aways versus take away, what more do you need? There is no argument to made otherwise. He was the top pairing guy in Arizona. Once again, no leg to stand on otherwise.

Holl did have more hits and blocks, as well as give aways (more than Rielly too), and yet isn't even respected by fans of his team. What does that tell you comparing Holl to Ekman-Larsson? They aren't comparable.