Rumor: The Athletic, Thomas Drance- Teams are more engaged w. Canucks regarding OEL and Garland trades and not Myers and Miller

[UrbanImpact]

Very interesting.

Garland was by far and away the best 5 on 5 player the Canucks had and is on a great deal. 4 more years at 4.95. 25 yrs old.

OEL is 7mil per with 5 years left. Was good as top pairing D for Canucks last season.
Previously he was only willing to waive for Vancouver and Boston.

Canuck fans absolutely love Garland and there are plenty that would like to see Boeser, Hoglander and even Miller traded before Garland.

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[BayStBullies]

That's impossible. All I have read suggests Miller is needed by every team in the league and they will all fight with numerous 1st round picks and top prospects to have him.

 

[Kcb12345]

Garland for Marino

 

[orby]

Garland for Marino

I think this makes sense as the basis for a trade. A lot of Pens fans would say Marino is worth more, though.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Would love Garland still but not sure if the money works with Palat in the fold (hasn't been announced yet by the Devils, wonder if a snag hit or something).

 

[Cogburn]

Oh, snap.

OEL's NMC is a hurdle though. Still a top flight Dman, PPQB and pretty good all around...we just have Hughes.

And I like Garland, quite frankly. Solid second line forward production, a suped up motor and great agitator.

 

[Forge]

I think Rutherford flat out said that they had no requests for teams to speak with Miller's camp and no offers for Miller. Not sure what's going on there.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I think this makes sense as the basis for a trade. A lot of Pens fans would say Marino is worth more, though.

I dont think id be willing to add too much more with Garland to get Marino.

I think Garland himself especially with his contract should fetch a young RD whether thats Marino or someone else.

Would hate to lose Garland.. Endless motor and very elusive and creative.

Getting Kuzmenko softens the blow though if we lost Garland.

 

[miscs75]

I think Rutherford flat out said that they had no requests for teams to speak with Miller's camp and no offers for Miller. Not sure what's going on there.

That reads like Rutherford refusing to let teams talk to Miller’s camp until after the trade is complete.

 

[Waterbuf]

Miller had too good of a season. Teams aren't willing to pony up for the asking price for a guy at his age and inconsistent resume. Its unfortunate because trading him for a massive haul is kind of exactly what the Canucks needed to do at this point, but re-signing him to a reasonable contract would be great too.

 

[md006]

Make sense, a lot of teams would love to add a couple first-rounders in the next few drafts, which explains the interest in OEL...

For JT Miller there are few teams which can add his contract, and most are tanking thus more interested in adding first rounders OEL.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I think Rutherford flat out said that they had no requests for teams to speak with Miller's camp and no offers for Miller. Not sure what's going on there.

Pretty much as in, all the offers have been made or rejected and they are sitting still with their high price tag on Miller. They are probably waiting for interest to pick up with teams that were after Malkin, Kadri etc who missed out . Most recent report is they still have offers similar to 1st chytil lundqvist on the table, they just dont want it.



Just a game of chicken now to see who blinks first and not surprisingly teams are turning their attention on Garland in the meantime.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Would Boston have any interest in either?

ironically . Garland is from Mass and OEL was willing to waive to Boston before.

 

[AHLdepth]

If there is even a single team that had moderate interest in OEL, like really genuinely saw him as not a total and complete cap dump, I'm not lying to say he might be the cheapest attainable legit top 4 defenseman to acquire. His contract is not good, he will not age as well as we would like, but if some team thought "I'm only going to think about the next two years, have some cap space, and would like an immediate cheap solution to get better" OEL is your guy.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Contract aside, OEL is still a legit #2-3 Dman. He is waaaaaay better and younger than Burns.

Moving him would probably look similar to the Burns trade.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Would Boston have any interest in either?

ironically . Garland is from Mass and OEL was willing to waive to Boston before.

Bruins don't have the cap space. Don't need OEL; but Garland is certainly open for discussion, but see the first point.

 

[McJedi]

I think Rutherford flat out said that they had no requests for teams to speak with Miller's camp and no offers for Miller. Not sure what's going on there.

It’s not surprising. Miller doesn’t have a lot of trade value if his extension is going to break the bank. Why trade much of anything for a guy you have to overpay to retain.

Would be better to call Vancouver near the deadline if you’re a contender and he’s the missing piece. And pay the rental price (which will be significant) at that time.

 

[UrbanImpact]

Bruins don't have the cap space. Don't need OEL; but Garland is certainly open for discussion, but see the first point.

Garland for Carlo basis?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

That's impossible. All I have read suggests Miller is needed by every team in the league and they will all fight with numerous 1st round picks and top prospects to have him.

Perhaps Vancouver is determining this because they wish to keep Miller?

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Garland for Carlo basis?

In a vacuum, I think that's a good spot to start.

But realistically, in order for that to happen:
Garland for Carlo
Bruins would need to find a replacement RD for Carlo, we aren't deep in that position, so may not make sense unless they acquire another RD in a different trade.

Cap, both Bruins and Canucks are trying to shed some cap, money would probably need to be even in order to make any deal work.

Again, not against this, but I feel like there are just too many dominoes that need to fall to realistically talk about that swap.

A deal around MAYBE Garland and Meyers (retained) for Carlo and Debrusk could work, if the money evens out the way they want. Probably adds on both sides to make people happy.

 

[UrbanImpact]

In a vacuum, I think that's a good spot to start.

But realistically, in order for that to happen:
Garland for Carlo
Bruins would need to find a replacement RD for Carlo, we aren't deep in that position, so may not make sense unless they acquire another RD in a different trade.

Cap, both Bruins and Canucks are trying to shed some cap, money would probably need to be even in order to make any deal work.

Again, not against this, but I feel like there are just too many dominoes that need to fall to realistically talk about that swap.

A deal around MAYBE Garland and Meyers (retained) for Carlo and Debrusk could work, if the money evens out the way they want. Probably adds on both sides to make people happy.

Id certainly entertain the idea of Debrusk Carlo for Myers Garland with retention to make it even money.

Myers would be fantastic grab for Boston.

If it doesnt work out, Bergeron retires, Pastrnak traded etc then Myers can be flipped at next years deadline for easily a 2nd round pick maybe even a 1st as his contract would be expiring.

 

[BCNate]

In a vacuum, I think that's a good spot to start.

But realistically, in order for that to happen:
Garland for Carlo
Bruins would need to find a replacement RD for Carlo, we aren't deep in that position, so may not make sense unless they acquire another RD in a different trade.

Cap, both Bruins and Canucks are trying to shed some cap, money would probably need to be even in order to make any deal work.

Again, not against this, but I feel like there are just too many dominoes that need to fall to realistically talk about that swap.

A deal around MAYBE Garland and Meyers (retained) for Carlo and Debrusk could work, if the money evens out the way they want. Probably adds on both sides to make people happy.

Any interest in Schenn? He is a very good bottom pair D on a real good deal.

Garland+ Schenn for Carlo?

Not sure how the Bruins RD looks at the top. I just can't see the Canucks wanting to add $4 mill in DeBrusk to the forward group. I think pretty much all their moves from here on out will be to shift some $ and talent to D.

 

[Bgav]

I don’t believe anything anymore. Every report from Vancouver since the new management has been wrong. Like they throw stuff out there and then when it’s false they make something up lol

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Any interest in Schenn? He is a very good bottom pair D on a real good deal.

Garland+ Schenn for Carlo?

Not sure how the Bruins RD looks at the top. I just can't see the Canucks wanting to add $4 mill in DeBrusk to the forward group. I think pretty much all their moves from here on out will be to shift some $ and talent to D.

Schenn, not so much... Like I said, there's lots of variables in order for them to seriously consider, and both teams need to shift out $$$.

 

[EverTheCynic]

I don’t believe anything anymore. Every report from Vancouver since the new management has been wrong. Like they throw stuff out there and then when it’s false they make something up lol

Rutherford is clearly playing games.

Which is fine, so long as it’s not blatantly obvious like this. Then you just look silly.