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Quick was back to preseason form. I also feel like he and shesty give up quick goals back to back all the time.
Post-Game Talk: Teeth
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EdJovanovski
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I think Fox is just as good defensively as he is offensively, they've played very well together before and I think they compliment each other tremendously. Their strengths are each others weaknesses. Fox is one of the highest IQ players of all time but with pretty weak athleticism and physical tools. Miller can be a clumsy oaf sometimes but is one of the best athletes in the league, insane reach, size, speed.
I want a children’s book with pop-outs as an explanation instead of these fancy schmancy nerd graphs. Not all of us got our grade 10, Lahey.
just wanted to say how much I love Jack Harlow ! ... I mean Artemi Panarin not Jack Harlow...actually love em both
Machinehead
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I'm not against keeping MIller and Trouba in the top 4, just not together.
Trouba is not a puck-mover and never was. When he and Miller are together, we have no way to transition out of our defensive zone.
Lindgren is a weird player. When he's playing well (which he's not), I have no problem with him making the correct first pass out of danger and doing it with efficiency. Then he gets into the offensive zone and it's like he's never played hockey before.
Miller is that same weird player, but the opposite. He obviously has a ton of skill and is good at finishing chances whether it's shooting or making a decisive pass. When he's in danger in his own end, he moves the puck like a glacier pushing a slower glacier. I think Fox's ability to move the puck would be perfect for him as opposed to Trouba who doesn't have that ability at all.
And even if he wasn't, assessing your pairs as "this guy does offense, this guy does defense" is missing a ton of nuance. It's exactly the thing that led to Miller and Trouba stinking up the ice. They're ostensibly offense and defense, except they're not.
Trouba is not a puck-mover and never was. When he and Miller are together, we have no way to transition out of our defensive zone.
Lindgren is a weird player. When he's playing well (which he's not), I have no problem with him making the correct first pass out of danger and doing it with efficiency. Then he gets into the offensive zone and it's like he's never played hockey before.
Miller is that same weird player, but the opposite. He obviously has a ton of skill and is good at finishing chances whether it's shooting or making a decisive pass. When he's in danger in his own end, he moves the puck like a glacier pushing a slower glacier. I think Fox's ability to move the puck would be perfect for him as opposed to Trouba who doesn't have that ability at all.
Fox is one of the more defensively-deployed defensemen in the league.
And even if he wasn't, assessing your pairs as "this guy does offense, this guy does defense" is missing a ton of nuance. It's exactly the thing that led to Miller and Trouba stinking up the ice. They're ostensibly offense and defense, except they're not.
Machinehead
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Those charts are grade 3. It's literally blue good red bad. It's Dr. Seuss.
Red chart, blue chart, one chart, two chart.
Megustaelhockey
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The man enthusiastically checking his waistband under a blanket on the 72nd St Q platform had a better night than I did attending that game.
What a slop fest.
What a slop fest.
McRanger92
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nonsense. fox is a great all around dman. none of our dmen are 4th forwards. miller is also one of the few dman in the world with the speed and athleticism to be caught up ice and still be able to get back defensively.
Machinehead
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The days of a Leetch and a Beukeboom have gone by the wayside. With Miller and Fox, you have a tank and a more cerebral player. They're great compliments to each other.
With Miller and Trouba, you have two tanks who are completely lost as soon as they have to do something quickly or think about something besides the very next step.
With Miller and Trouba, you have two tanks who are completely lost as soon as they have to do something quickly or think about something besides the very next step.
Machinehead
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Also, just to be fair, Miller and Trouba were are only good defensemen in that game. It's just something that's bothered me for a long time.
We sucked in that game because Lindgren gave up 20 shots.
We sucked in that game because Lindgren gave up 20 shots.
KirkAlbuquerque
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I love the idea of Miller-Fox and Gustafsson-Trouba
PuckLuck3043
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The Rangers have played 9 games in the last 15 days. The schedule and travel the last few days is even more insane. It matters. Fatigue causes defensive breakdowns. Yet they still managed 4 points this weekend.
Machinehead
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I thought Jones was finally looking good before Fox came back.
If we decided to move on from Lindgren, we wouldn't even have to "replace" him.
We've made the mistake before of keeping the already declining shot-blocker over the guy who came here and had a renaissance.
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Quick was awful, but thankfully the offense showed up.
Glen Sathers Cigar
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Trocheck just totally rocks as a player. Love everything about his game.
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Yes - but what about the game?
Remember when we sucked on face-offs?
Killem Dafoe
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Brutananadilewski
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So next game is Tuesday (Senators)...and then we have another back-to-back on Saturday and Sunday (Capitals, Kings).
Whoever came up with our schedule deserves 5 across the eyes.
Whoever came up with our schedule deserves 5 across the eyes.
You are 100% correct. How many coaches do we need in here that haven't put Miller with Fox? Why hasn't anyone done it? Because it's stupid. If you want Miller to grow into a stud offensive defenseman, you don't put him with Fox. You would be wasting his offensive skills. Let someone else be Fox's lackey.
Hire Sather
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This was a game we were always going to behind in early. All the makings of a let down game. Whatever. Won it in the end. Really due for a loss though
Average teams like the Devils lose games like this good teams struggle but win at the end.
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