Management Sweeney, Neely II
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Flannelman
Quiet, Gnashgab.
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It’s time for one vision w one voice who will have the fortitude to be accountable and won’t hide from tough questions. Outsider.
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Dennis Bonvie
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I'm not discounting the clean-up job Sweeney needed to do after the Chia years; however, there is something rotten in the land of Causeway.
On the one side we have those like DKH that are scapegoating this whole dysfunction on Cassidy and the coaching staff. On the other side we have those that tar and feather Sweeney and Neely daily for their roster management. Who knows who is right, and who is wrong. Chicken Salad or Chicken Shit... Who really knows...
What is pretty easy to see for any layman fan is that Cassidy wants to play a fast transition attacking game with possession and action off the half wall. The roster is built for that with about half the players. With the other half they are more a chip and chase profile and skill set.
In the early days Sweeney was clear about a rat pack mentality and being hard (not necessarily heavy) on the puck, exploiting speed and skill with the "new" NHL. That is not the roster he has assembled for the staff to ice though. Has Sweeney and the front office asked to adjust the staff's game plan to the players? Do they speak and adjust together as per the groceries in the bags? Has the staff tuned out the GM and President? Do the GM and President not realize they have provided perished goods for dinner? Is the staff that bad they they keep on screwing up what should be an easy 3 star meal with the groceries?
At the end of the day, NHL teams are like a small family run business. This isn't rocket science and there aren't enough layers to the mgmt and hierarchies to have all these clouds of confusion. It shows lack of character to not be able or willing to stomp it out and clean things up between the discontent.
To net it out. Did the owner ask the burger joint to start flipping lobster rolls given the groceries, or expect the cook to keep making burgers and hide that fish taste with extra mustard?
On the one side we have those like DKH that are scapegoating this whole dysfunction on Cassidy and the coaching staff. On the other side we have those that tar and feather Sweeney and Neely daily for their roster management. Who knows who is right, and who is wrong. Chicken Salad or Chicken Shit... Who really knows...
What is pretty easy to see for any layman fan is that Cassidy wants to play a fast transition attacking game with possession and action off the half wall. The roster is built for that with about half the players. With the other half they are more a chip and chase profile and skill set.
In the early days Sweeney was clear about a rat pack mentality and being hard (not necessarily heavy) on the puck, exploiting speed and skill with the "new" NHL. That is not the roster he has assembled for the staff to ice though. Has Sweeney and the front office asked to adjust the staff's game plan to the players? Do they speak and adjust together as per the groceries in the bags? Has the staff tuned out the GM and President? Do the GM and President not realize they have provided perished goods for dinner? Is the staff that bad they they keep on screwing up what should be an easy 3 star meal with the groceries?
At the end of the day, NHL teams are like a small family run business. This isn't rocket science and there aren't enough layers to the mgmt and hierarchies to have all these clouds of confusion. It shows lack of character to not be able or willing to stomp it out and clean things up between the discontent.
To net it out. Did the owner ask the burger joint to start flipping lobster rolls given the groceries, or expect the cook to keep making burgers and hide that fish taste with extra mustard?
Dennis Bonvie
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Sorry, but I don't see this analogy at all.
The owner in a small family business is 100% invested. He knows the business inside and out. He calls the shots.
NHL team owners (especially Boston's) do know the business of hockey, but not the product. They hire hockey people to run the team. They have other businesses. They have to deal with unions. Etc., etc.
Seems to be a big difference.
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It works if you see the front office as the "business owners" in the analogy.
Dennis Bonvie
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OK, that's better.
But I still think the front office has a lot more to deal with than a small family business owner.
The don godfather
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Its amazing donny and neely were one game away from being heroes to now get the pitchforks out. Such a fine line with winning and losing.
22Brad Park
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Sweeney should be an assistant GM not a GM
WhalerTurnedBruin55
Fading out, thanks for the times.
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Chiarelli literally won and was ousted in less than 5 years.
Sweeney can't even say that and he's reaching year 3 since he made it to the final and didn't even win. Times a ticking. Every management team / coach has a shelf life, and as much as I wanted Sweeney to succeed here... I think we've seen what he can do. And imo time to move on.
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The don godfather
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I'm not ready to give him the pink slip hes done some solid things. McAvoy sway carlo. Finding bruce was solid too.
Hasn’t Bruce been in the organization since ‘08, how did he find him?
He looked in his back pocket, you know, the one that had Tyler Toffoli in it.
Or was it via an extensive international search?
MattFromFranklin
Fire Sweeney and Neely
Naah, didn't they say something about searching for the next GM when Chiarelli was fired? And then the comment that was attributed to Sweeney about having Tiffoli "in his back pocket" if he wanted him IIRC. Honestly, that front office can't open their collective mouths without inserting their (collective) feet.
TCB
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The bad way out does the good. I mean its not even close
TCB
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I think he would make a great Ditch digger, the way he keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper for the Bruins.
The don godfather
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TCB
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Sure he can hang his hat on that if he chooses or u can for him, but he had very little to do with it and if he would of been better at drafting and signings UFA to add impactful players with the Hall of Fame core he inherited, the Bruins more than likely would have had one or two more Stanley Cup banners hanging in the rafters.
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The don godfather
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TCB
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We will agree to Largely disagree on this one.
IMO his terrible asset management was more of a reason of why the Bruins didn't win the Cup in 2019 than anything he did to help get them to the finals. If he would of drafted like a competent GM in 2015 and used his cap space wisely instead of on players like Backes, and Beleskey which he again hurt the future of the Bruins by it costing him two future 1st round picks in order to dump these terrible signings.
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The don godfather
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TCB
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Lol. Yup, but that doesn't make Sweeney a good GM but all of his boneheaded decisions, sure in the hell make him a terrible one.
DKH
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It is mind boggling the Leafs haven’t even been to a Finals or won a President Trophy since their were 6 teams and the Bruins did 3 each none in same year since 2008
the last tine Leafs were in Finals both the Beatles and Bobby Orr had short hair and the US had a military draft (I can’t imagine kids today dealing with that lol I missed it but I knew it was out there as a kid and very real)
