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Speculation: Summer buyout candidates
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bucks_oil
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He's not going to win a Vezina at his age... heavily reliant on speed/reflexes and too many holes (like his 5-hole for one) in his technique.
I do agree he's going to have a few flash-in-the-pan revived seasons though. Much of his demise was due to Oilers contract situation this year. Still hoping they give him some games down the stretch with their saved $$$.
What’s the point of giving him games down the stretch? The book on him has been written and closed.
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Or consider which teams actually need or want to use the cap space. Like, I'm not even sure Holl is a buyout candidate yet considering Detroit has over 25 mil in cap space.
I'd be very curious if Skinner (Buffalo) is willing to waive his NMC.
His sporadic production is would be much more acceptable at 4.5M than it is at 9M.
I think a buyout makes a good bit of sense though. Only one BAD year of it (25-26) and the three trailing years we'll be at 100M+ salary cap.
His sporadic production is would be much more acceptable at 4.5M than it is at 9M.
I think a buyout makes a good bit of sense though. Only one BAD year of it (25-26) and the three trailing years we'll be at 100M+ salary cap.
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From what I've heard he signed in Buffalo partly because he wanted to be as close as possible to Toronto.
No chance the Leafs want him, so I dont think he'd waive his NMC.
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He played 5 of the first 11 games to Skinner's 6. Both had near identical stats. One got sent down because of cap and age. The other stayed up and recovered mostly due to the play of the team around him... a benefit not afforded the other guy. Neither of them were particularly good or bad the first 11 games of this season... much of that due to the play of the team around them.
I'm not saying Jack Campbell is an NHL starter. But to say he's not capable of being a quality back up (where his weak mental game would not be put to the same rigorous test) would be ignoring a whole lot of data to the contrary.
There are several good candidates for Montreal (Gallagher, Anderson, Dvorak), but recently Josh Anderson stands out with a low level of involvement.
No one from the Habs will get bought out. Habs don’t have cap issues.
But no GM would take on Campbell even at 50%. Oilers will buy him out. No brainer.
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That is not at all what was being discussed.
Of course the Oilers buy him out... the conversation you stepped into was about two things: 1) getting him games down the stretch so that he can be used BY THE OILERS if required in playoffs. ie is he a more suitable/experienced backup than Pickard. I say yes... and 2) speculation between myself and another Oiler fan that after buyout, he'll rebound somewhat (as a backup, likely at league min) with a new team. I take the over on that too FWIW
Agreed on 1) above. Might be a good idea to get him warmed up just in case disaster happens. Don't see any GM taking him on after the buyout unless its at league minimum salary.
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I could see Anderson because I just don't think they want him on the team anymore and he's immovable at full cap but I agree it's doubtful
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The Habs have tons including Josh Anderson, Price, Dvorak, Gallagher and Armia. So none will be bought out because these guys allow you to reach the capfloor. Secondly, their respective contracts will be up in 3 years for the most part. Armia had a bounce back year, so he might be easily tradeable. As for Price, you stick it out on LTIR.
I always thought a swap of Campbell for Johansen might make some sense. Said it the day the Flyers waived him.
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Interesting. But based on the time remaining on the contract, something else would need to come with Campbell to facilitate.
Why would that make sense for the Flyers? Campbell has 3 x years remaining in that toxic contract. Johansen has 1 year remaining. Johansen can still play in a 3C capacity. Campbell would cost a minimum of 2 x 1st round picks to dump (possibly more).
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Then some GMs are idiots. If I was the GM of San Jose I would call up Edmonton and see what they would offer to include with Campbell even at full price. They are going to suck for the next few years, might as well get something out of it.
This has been shown to not be the truth time and time again. When will the collective of HFBoards learn?
They would be asking for at least 2 x 1st round picks ++. Is it worth it to Edm? Of course not. Buyout is the best option.
Depending on the status of Logan Couture, it's possible that there's a deal to be made where if Couture is done, Edmonton could use the LTIR cap space Couture would provide while dumping Campbell. They'd still need to take one of Blackwood or Vanecek, I think but it's not completely impossible to do something else without needing two 1st round picks. I'd also probably do just the 2025 1st to take Campbell if Edmonton took back Sturm and Burroughs.
