Speculation: Streit

Henkka

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Streit does not impress. With Corsi, what he was for Islanders is what Jakub Kindl/Colaiacovo was for Detroit. There no reason to pay any big millions for him.

I'd go with our current guys.

Only PP specialist I would consider if the price is right, would be Sergei Gonchar. With 1-year deal. He would be typical Holland-acquisition. Proven former defensive leading scorer.
 

FlashyG

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IIRC they were near the top even as recently as last year

unless i'm mixing up the years or something I remember seeing graphics during games last season showing the Wings on top/near the top in goals by defensemen and such

pretty drastic fall off

Last season the Wings were 8th and 2nd so it was a pretty drastic drop.

Pts Rank | Team | Points | Goals Rank | Team | Goals
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| Ottawa | 201 |
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| Nashville | 47
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| Vancouver | 181 |
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| Detroit | 44
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| Nashville | 172 |
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| Los Angeles | 44
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| Philadelphia | 170 |
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| Ottawa | 44
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| Toronto | 170 |
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| Vancouver | 40
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| Winnipeg | 165 |
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| Carolina | 39
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| Columbus | 161 |
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| Columbus | 38
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| Detroit | 160 |
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| Toronto | 38
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| St. Louis | 160 |
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| Boston | 35
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| Florida | 159 |
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| Buffalo | 34
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| Chicago | 156 |
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| Phoenix | 34
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| Boston | 154 |
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| San Jose | 32
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| Pittsburgh | 153 |
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| Winnipeg | 32
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| New York R | 150 |
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| St. Louis | 31
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| Carolina | 146 |
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| Anaheim | 30
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| San Jose | 144 |
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| Florida | 30
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| Montreal | 143 |
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| New York R | 30
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| Los Angeles | 142 |
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| Washington | 30
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| Washington | 142 |
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| Calgary | 27
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| Phoenix | 141 |
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| Dallas | 27
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| Tampa Bay | 136 |
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| Colorado | 26
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| Colorado | 135 |
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| Montreal | 26
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| Buffalo | 131 |
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| Pittsburgh | 26
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| Anaheim | 130 |
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| Philadelphia | 25
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| Calgary | 125 |
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| Chicago | 24
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| New York I | 122 |
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| Tampa Bay | 24
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| Dallas | 121 |
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| Edmonton | 23
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| Edmonton | 119 |
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| New York I | 19
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| New Jersey | 107 |
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| New Jersey | 16
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| Minnesota | 95 |
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| Minnesota | 14
 

mindfly

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Winger98

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Streit does not impress. With Corsi, what he was for Islanders is what Jakub Kindl/Colaiacovo was for Detroit. There no reason to pay any big millions for him.

I'd go with our current guys.

Only PP specialist I would consider if the price is right, would be Sergei Gonchar. With 1-year deal. He would be typical Holland-acquisition. Proven former defensive leading scorer.

I'd be fine with Gonchar, too. Have to point out, though, that Gonchar was second in IT for the sens, including top4 in ES and PK time. The guy was far more than a specialist, and could be more than that here, too.
 

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I would love to get Streit. Isles fans marvel at him. Great vision, IQ, passing, and can actually put the puck on net. Our PP sucks. I hope we get rid of Q and Lashoff (Smith won't go anywhere unfortunately).
 

BF3

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Next season's projected lineup:

Kronwall-Ericsson
Smith-Dekesyer
Kindl-Quincey
CC
Lashoff

I don't see the point unless we want to improve our 7th/8th defenseman by bumping/trading a 3rd liner. And considering the money he is likely to want...no thanks. I don't see him playing 1st line minutes.
 

Winger98

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Next season's projected lineup:

Kronwall-Ericsson
Smith-Dekesyer
Kindl-Quincey
CC
Lashoff

I don't see the point unless we want to improve our 7th/8th defenseman by bumping/trading a 3rd liner. And considering the money he is likely to want...no thanks. I don't see him playing 1st line minutes.

I think the idea is to move one of Q/Cc off the team and the other into the 7th spot. And looking ahead to next year's UFA crop, the pickings for a blueliner isn't any better unless we think we have a shot at Letang (I don't think he hits the open market, but you never know). If Holland wants to grab a guy who can put up 40+ points on the blueline, Streit is probably his best shot for a few years.
 

mindfly

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I would love to get Streit. Isles fans marvel at him. Great vision, IQ, passing, and can actually put the puck on net. Our PP sucks. I hope we get rid of Q and Lashoff (Smith won't go anywhere unfortunately).

Streit turns 36 this year. Wings need players that will be part of the Core and Future
 

Heaton

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Streit turns 36 this year. Wings need players that will be part of the Core and Future

We have them on defense, I'm not sure how I feel about Streit, but he would probably be a good compliment to our PP and transition game for 2-3 years.
 

SoupNazi

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I think the idea is to move one of Q/Cc off the team and the other into the 7th spot. And looking ahead to next year's UFA crop, the pickings for a blueliner isn't any better unless we think we have a shot at Letang (I don't think he hits the open market, but you never know). If Holland wants to grab a guy who can put up 40+ points on the blueline, Streit is probably his best shot for a few years.

If we were to do that, I hope we move Quincey off the team and CC into the 7th spot. CC makes little enough money to justify being #7; Quincey, on the other hand, would be one of the highest paid #7s in the league.
 

bababooeyII

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It would only work if he took 3yrs max, and the Wings would have to part with guys like Kindl, Quincey and Coco. The Wings main focus should be getting bigger up front, the power play will come around, especially if they can get some legitimate beef up front and have guys jam the net.
 

Henkka

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If we were to do that, I hope we move Quincey off the team and CC into the 7th spot. CC makes little enough money to justify being #7; Quincey, on the other hand, would be one of the highest paid #7s in the league.

Yeah, let's put one PK defenceman off the team and take one PP specialist more, when we have already enough. Great idea. :shakehead
 

Winger98

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If we were to do that, I hope we move Quincey off the team and CC into the 7th spot. CC makes little enough money to justify being #7; Quincey, on the other hand, would be one of the highest paid #7s in the league.

It would be annoying, but it would also be for just a year. If we have to have Q in the seventh spot, and it doesn't prevent us from making another move that we want to make, it's not a huge deal, imo. It's only a problem if it impacts us negatively.

I think Q would be moved, though, because I think he brings back the best return - unless we're looking at moving a kid, in which case I think Smith would be the biggest chip on the table.
 

bababooeyII

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It is silly to suggest Quincey will be moved. Holland traded away a first round pick to acquire him, a very high cost. There is no way he would get a similar return plus Holland's stubborn. There will be no trades, maybe a buy out here or there but this talk of trading is silly.
 

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absolutely yes

thats our goal. to win the cup again but it isnt next season unless by fluke and thats ok or at least it should be

let the young guys develop so we can win again soon but and more importantly to be able to keep being in contention to win for years after that

if he were 26 and would be part of our young core then thats a hole differnet story

i wouldnt sign jagr at the expense of tatar or nyquist

Why are you so sure we aren't one player away from a Cup? We were one goal from the conference finals, and none of the remaining teams look that formidable except Boston. And all our young guns will only be more solid next year. A few tweaks here and there are all tgis team needs. Basically, a big body scored and maybe a solid puck moving defenseman, which we may have already in DeKeyser.
 

Henkka

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It is silly to suggest Quincey will be moved. Holland traded away a first round pick to acquire him, a very high cost. There is no way he would get a similar return plus Holland's stubborn. There will be no trades, maybe a buy out here or there but this talk of trading is silly.

Yeah. Defence is set. If something happens, it happens with offensive crops.

I like this defence. It's young and it can develop very much better especially with good training camp. They played very solid defence at end of regular season with low GAA when DeKeyser was with Kindl in 3rd pair. I like to see that TOP6 more at next season.

Kronwall - Ericsson
Quincey - Smith
DeKeyser - Kindl

(Cola)
(Lash)

Let's bolster the offense with one UFA and with speedy kids, and we will blow the **** out of the Eastern Conference. :nod:
 

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I like this defence. It's young and it can develop very much better especially with good training camp. They played very solid defence at end of regular season with low GAA when DeKeyser was with Kindl in 3rd pair. I like to see that TOP6 more at next season.

It also sucks. I don't know what playoffs were you watching but Detroit's defense was absolutely atrocious, from turnovers to PP. DeK is not going to change it. Streit*played top minutes for quite some time, he would be the stabilizing presence.

Obviously our problems don't end there, but he could seriously help the back end. And then maybe we could trade Smith.
 

Henkka

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It also sucks. I don't know what playoffs were you watching but Detroit's defense was absolutely atrocious, from turnovers to PP. DeK is not going to change it. Streit*played top minutes for quite some time, he would be the stabilizing presence.

Obviously our problems don't end there, but he could seriously help the back end. And then maybe we could trade Smith.

Streit was one of the group of Islanders defence, that played an easy season against easiest competition. Their shut-down guys are MacDonald-Hamonic, the only guys I would consider from our team to ours.

With atrocious defence we won 7/14 playoff games. Next year it will be better than "absolutely atrocious". Kids will develop, especially Smith.

I don't like Streit as a player, he is not fit for us and especially that caphit is no any kind of fit for us. That cap room we have, is going to be used to UFA forward and extensions.
 

Hendricks433

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It is silly to suggest Quincey will be moved. Holland traded away a first round pick to acquire him, a very high cost. There is no way he would get a similar return plus Holland's stubborn. There will be no trades, maybe a buy out here or there but this talk of trading is silly.

Just because he made a bad trade doesnt mean we hang on to him. He is not very good and its primarily the salary. Him getting paid 3.75 million a year is pretty outrageous. Not sure how that happened.
 

crashman

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Just because he made a bad trade doesnt mean we hang on to him. He is not very good and its primarily the salary. Him getting paid 3.75 million a year is pretty outrageous. Not sure how that happened.

I don't think the Quincey trade worked out as well as Holland planned, but he's not a bad player. People always seems to factor in Holland giving up a first round pick when they talk about Quincey. How about judging him objectively on how he has played thoughout his career? People complained that we lost him for nothing, then we get him back and he's awful and needs to be traded. I'm not saying you did that, but just a trend I've noticed around here.
 

bababooeyII

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Just because he made a bad trade doesnt mean we hang on to him. He is not very good and its primarily the salary. Him getting paid 3.75 million a year is pretty outrageous. Not sure how that happened.

:laugh:

tell that to Ken Holland, not me. I am just telling you there is no chance he will get traded for the reasons I stated. I would love to eat my words.
 

sarcastro

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Streit will probably get close to what he's demanding from someone, but it won't be the Wings. I could see them signing him to a 1 or 2 year deal, but if he's looking for 3-4 years at that price, he's not going to be a Wing.
 

TatarTangle

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Streit would be an excellent player to sign for 2-3 years until Sproul and Ouellet are ready for the NHL. Let's be frank, despite Streit being 35 years old, it wouldn't be the equivalent to signing Sammy or Cleary because he would still be usefull. Why?

The Red Wings' power play is worse than Titus Young's police record IN A WEEK. That's bad. Don't even argue that with me. Kindl looked good on the point, for what he is at this time, but they still need someone experienced. I know, it's weird saying that now. That's a good thing though.

I don't think it's a coincidence that once Ralfaski and Lidstrom left the PP has been the worst we've ever seen. And to be honest, that was the deciding factor of winning and losing a lot of games.

Put it this way; I hope to GOD it would take Brunner off the point. Can we all at least agree that would be a good thing?
 

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