Proposal: STL - NSH (Imagine that…)
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Terrible value for St Louis. And I dislike that club very much.
Maybe at first glance, but Sissons would fit great in St Louis.
But fair enough, I like Kyrou too, even though he hasn’t been engaged in his own end this year
Cool trade idea though, DFAC? Or not this one
Also that’s why I put it under @Indrid Cold “imagine that “ series
DatDude44
Hmmmm?
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Why do we need yet another middle 6 c/W? For our 2nd most talented player?
This is embarassing
Linkens Mastery
Conductor of the TankTown Express
Hell no
Edit: let me give an actual reason. Why in the living hell would the Blues trade one of their top 2 forwards for a 30 year old middle 6 forward and a few seconds. This is a completely lopsided spit in the face to Blues fans. Absolutely terrible terrible trade for the Blues.
And again. Hell No.
Edit: let me give an actual reason. Why in the living hell would the Blues trade one of their top 2 forwards for a 30 year old middle 6 forward and a few seconds. This is a completely lopsided spit in the face to Blues fans. Absolutely terrible terrible trade for the Blues.
And again. Hell No.
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Fine. But you guys need to be more defensively sound if you want a chance at Stars or Avs this year
Linkens Mastery
Conductor of the TankTown Express
.... were not making the playoffs so what does that matter?
Kings 23 wins, Kraken 21 wins meanwhile Blues with 26 wins. You guys are getting that wild card spot.
You can decline the trade , but I’ll see you guys at the 2024 playoffs
Linkens Mastery
Conductor of the TankTown Express
Were a .500 team that went on a 5 game winning streak. We are not a playoff team.
yes please. I’m sure there would be some predator fans on here that would say no because “sissons is to valuable to our team” lolYou know, Linkens, for a guy who used to really bleed the blue , you sure toned it down these last few years
Coffee, we can't score, beyond our first line. Our 2nd line is made up of Saad, Schenn, and which ever random forward we care to put on it. Schenn is on the down side of his career, Saad is a solid 3rd liner. (Kap who is injured - is also a solid 3rd liner). And that should tell you everything you need to know about the team. We have players similar to Sissons. We need more offensive players - like two more top 6 forwards.
We really need more skill up front. Not more defensive forwards - We have that in spades.
Let me put this to you a different way.
Blues trade a 25 year old who has been near ppg for the past two season.
Nash Trades a 30 year old who has a career high of 30 points
And you are tossing in some 2nds...... no first Rounders, no top prospects...
Come on man. That is terrible value and giving a line like - "you guys need to be more defensively sound" is pretty a weak response.
Linkens Mastery
Conductor of the TankTown Express
It's called being realistic. Lol. We're below average in almost every significant stat this season. From offense to defense to PP to PK.
Kyrou is and probably always will be a flawed player even with some better all-around effort performances this year. But he’s still a star, he’s still an unbelievable offensive talent.
I get the premise in theory…we are quick to laud top scoring “offense first” players when the puck is going in the net but when they struggle or get unlucky finishing for a stretch or season or when their team has an overall defensive identity problem (ie like an Ottawa in recent years), it’s easy to cast some doubt on the value of their games. And maybe you can have too many of these “types” on one team. And maybe the Kyrou contract isn’t terribly appealing on some particular teams - and in that lens would lessen his value to Team “A”.
But the Blues pretty much have no identity at the moment other than Rob Thomas finally turning into the star he was capable of (and Hofer quietly being one of the best young goalies in the league). I imagine at this point Buchnevich probably isn’t there long-term.
Liquidating the one other guy capable of creating something out of nothing, who is still young, and who is tied to a long-term deal the Blues easily can carry into a 30 year-old checking center on a career heater and some second round picks just ain’t it.
If Sissons were a 25 year-old Phil Danault clone on a good contract who you could envision being that 1-2 punch down the middle with Thomas for years down the road, with guys like Neighbors, Snuggerud and Bolduc filling in the wings, then sure yeah. I think the archetype of that kind of deal would have merit. But definitely not for Sissons.
I get the premise in theory…we are quick to laud top scoring “offense first” players when the puck is going in the net but when they struggle or get unlucky finishing for a stretch or season or when their team has an overall defensive identity problem (ie like an Ottawa in recent years), it’s easy to cast some doubt on the value of their games. And maybe you can have too many of these “types” on one team. And maybe the Kyrou contract isn’t terribly appealing on some particular teams - and in that lens would lessen his value to Team “A”.
But the Blues pretty much have no identity at the moment other than Rob Thomas finally turning into the star he was capable of (and Hofer quietly being one of the best young goalies in the league). I imagine at this point Buchnevich probably isn’t there long-term.
Liquidating the one other guy capable of creating something out of nothing, who is still young, and who is tied to a long-term deal the Blues easily can carry into a 30 year-old checking center on a career heater and some second round picks just ain’t it.
If Sissons were a 25 year-old Phil Danault clone on a good contract who you could envision being that 1-2 punch down the middle with Thomas for years down the road, with guys like Neighbors, Snuggerud and Bolduc filling in the wings, then sure yeah. I think the archetype of that kind of deal would have merit. But definitely not for Sissons.
Porter Stoutheart
We Got Wood
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I like the rebuttals from the Blues side. It doesn't really excite me as a Preds fan either. We have some young talented players in our system already, however, who have some similar attributes to Kyrou - just without having had their breakout seasons yet - or the huge contract that goes with that. I'm content to wait and see what we have in Novak, Tomasino, and Evangelista. If given more prime offensive utilization, I don't think they would be very far off producing like Kyrou does. But you need more than those types of players to win NHL hockey games. Maybe I'm underestimating Kyrou, but regardless of that it seems like a thoroughly moot point, since the Blues would never go for this either, so we're all happy here.
You're talking about Colton Sissons... This guy? He’s a 30 year old 3rd liner. He's like a 11 goal scorer and he's solid, but not amazing defensively.
Kyrou scored 37 goals last season. 27 the year before that. He's had two seasons over 73 points. He's 5 years younger than Sissons. You think two low 2nd round picks is the value delta here?
One guy averages .77 PPG and the other just .18 ppg and again Sissons isn't some Selke level player either so don't tell me he's elite defensively. He's not.
Why are the Blues trading a 1st liner for a 3rd liner and two meh picks is my question and I'm an Avs fan that would LMAO if this deal actually happened. So I'm not arguing you as some angry blues fan, but this deal is absolute trash for them.
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Man 3 second round picks and Colton Sissons for another teams top line winger in his prime, why would anyone question that?
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