GDT: Stanley Cup Playoffs - Round 1 - Gm 5. Bolts @ Leafs; 7:30 pm EST

[OVO16]

Game 1 hits (Clifford and Simmonds)
56-36 Tampa (-20)

Game 2 hits (Simmonds)
39-36 Tampa (-3)

Game 3 hits (Spezza)
41-36 Tampa (-5)

Game 4 hits (Spezza)
40-32 Leafs (+8)

So in the two games without both of Clifford + Simmonds in the lineup the leafs have a greater body checking/hitting impact.

Only 1 game where the Leafs led in hitting and it came because we were getting slapped 5-0.

also, anyone with a pair of eyes will tell you that Tampa's hitting/checking has had a higher impact.

Just go back to the very first shift of last game and see how Stamkos got that goal as an example

 

[keonsbitterness]

Why does it feel like we’re down 3-0 in the series?

Most recent game is always freshest in the collective memory.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Sypher04]

Only 1 game where the Leafs led in hitting and it came because we were getting slapped 5-0.

also, anyone with a pair of eyes will tell you that Tampa's hitting/checking has had a higher impact.

Just go back to the very first shift of last game and see how Stamkos got that goal as an example

Yeah sorry that simply isn’t true, I mean, there’s been some stretches of play where their hitting has been more impactful (this works both ways) but if you are actually trying to make the argument this series has been us getting physically outmatched, that’s simply not the reality and pretty dishonest imo

 

[al secord]

Not nervous at all.

Drunk too?

Great work on the GDT @PromisedLand . Nice thing about the Playoffs is I’ll get to Like your GDT again on the Main Board.

Yes, this Tampa Team is a Veteran, battle tested Group. The Series so far has been

Gatuso gif? You're alright in my books.

But I believe in your Boys ability to fight back after a butt kicking

I expect your Boys to come out flying

And set the tone physically

The Lightning will probably be looking for help from the officials

But hopefully that just hurts themselves

Your Boys score on their opportunities
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Defense Handles the Lightning snipers
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Jack frustrates Tampa with a great effort
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So Tampa falls behind and then apart

And the Leafs blow them away

Gattuso gif? You're alright in my books.

 

[OVO16]

Yeah sorry that simply isn’t true, I mean, there’s been stretches of play where their hitting has been more impactful but if you are actually trying to make the argument this series has been us getting physically outmatched, that’s simply not the reality and pretty dishonest imo

I respect your opinion but here's where I disagree. I don't think we've been outmatched physically.

Its just that Tampa (and all other teams across the playoffs)...implement Physicality into their games a lot more than we do.

Hitting and body-checking is a tactic that can be used is a very good way if a coach knows how

 

[AvroArrow]

Alrighty then.... panic mode activated

This guy just gets more and more annoying every time he opens his mouth. I hope the boys read this shit too.

 

[al secord]

This live thread stuff is messing with my head man

 

[TheGreatOne11]

Why does it feel like we’re down 3-0 in the series?

Well we just got dummied by the back to back stanley cup winners, we came out flat and got slapped, so that's fresh in our minds, also the fact we've lost 5 straight first rounds and we were up 3-1 to a worse team and lost last year, so even 2-2 the fan base has reason to worry.

Tonight is a big game though, we show up, look good and win we got this, we lose tonight and our odds are very short of coming up with two big wins given how we've always responded.

But its fine, people are allowed to vent and feel frustrated, we just gotta hope this iteration of the team is different and we can come up with a kill mentality, win these two games back to back and finally get out of the first round.

It'll be a hell of a game I think. Its the start of a 3 game series. I expect everyone from both sides to start on time and have a war.

 

[IPS]

Guy is such a tool lol

He's literally making fun our team for our lack of intensity in the playoffs.

How about Keefe actually tells all our Lines and Pairings....to finish their checks, cause Havoc, play robust, play hard, get in the greasy areas and just use the body more?

I don't even care about not playing Simmonds and Clifford. Just make the players we have play Playoff Hockey. How about that

that's all I want too.

I'm still wondering where the hell that intensity from game 1 went.

 

[BayStBullies]

Alrighty then.... panic mode activated

That's so easy to be taken out of context. What was the question? I bet it was about Toronto.

 

[IPS]

Only 1 game where the Leafs led in hitting and it came because we were getting slapped 5-0.

also, anyone with a pair of eyes will tell you that Tampa's hitting/checking has had a higher impact.

Just go back to the very first shift of last game and see how Stamkos got that goal as an example

Tampa basically takes the momentum whenever they want it with their physicality.

All the Leafs do is react to it and turtle. And our coach's solution to it is to take the guys out of the lineup who could possibly do something about it.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

Only 1 game where the Leafs led in hitting and it came because we were getting slapped 5-0.

also, anyone with a pair of eyes will tell you that Tampa's hitting/checking has had a higher impact.

Just go back to the very first shift of last game and see how Stamkos got that goal as an example

Its true, Tampa's physicality on Lybushkin has made the Rielly-Lybushkin pairing awful at transitioning out of the zone. They should probably take out the boosh to put in someone who has a bit more footspeed and can handle/distribute the puck up ice a little cleaner.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Tampa basically takes the momentum whenever they want it with their physicality.

All the Leafs do is react to it and turtle. And our coach's solution to it is to take the guys out of the lineup who could possibly do something about it.

Our toughness is our PP

 

[OVO16]

Its true, Tampa's physicality on Lybushkin has made the Rielly-Lybushkin pairing awful at transitioning out of the zone. They should probably take out the boosh to put in someone who has a bit more footspeed and can handle/distribute the puck up ice a little cleaner.

Sure. Maybe we can ask our top line to impose that same physicality on Tampa's 1st pairing and create chances instead of going Flyby's and Poke-Check?

 

[PromisedLand]

• Holl was the odd man out the first 2 games
• Holl gave momentum to Tampa in Game 3 by directly causing 2 goals against
  • taking a moronic penalty
  • stupid pinch that led to offensive zone face-off for tampa and a goal when the puck should have been in the tampa zone
• Holl Gm 4 -> directly once again responsible for the goal against this time giving away the puck
  • momentum shifts in Tampa's favour
• Momentum is IMPORTANT in the playoffs. The clips in these tweets do not signal anything "special" that other d-men could not do
• Holl also played the least amount of minutes among defensemen in Gm 4
• Holl is not the guy that drives offense or drives his pairing no matter what Keefe says.
• Gio's impact since Holl partnered up with him has been net negative. That d-pairing is not involved in offensive pressure like it did when Lily was in the line up
• Muzzin-Brodie are already in a sense a defensive d-men pairing in a sense; they do not engage in offensive cycle as often. That leaves only Rielly and Lyubushkin pairing. No wonder we do not get any offensive cycle going either.
• We got Gio here to help some offense while playing sound defensively. We did not get Gio to play defensive d-men role.

The tweets that you posted is by a major Dubas homer and stat BS guy. Like mirtle they sell fake BS narrative and monetize their fake BS. Eventually people will stop buying the BS they are selling.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Drunk too?

I'm in complete control of ~hiccup~ my faculties.

 

[srnd9399]

This is a must win. GLG!

 

[OVO16]

Pierre Engvall is an absolute waste of a 6'4 specimen.

This dude has all the tools of being a Bottom 6 power forward....but he decides to play like a creampuff

 

[Future]

• Holl was the odd man out the first 2 games
• Holl gave momentum to Tampa in Game 3 by directly causing 2 goals against
  • taking a moronic penalty
  • stupid pinch that led to offensive zone face-off when the puck should have been in the tampa zone
• Holl Gm 4 -> directly once again responsible for the goal against this time giving away the puck
  • momentum shifts in Tampa's favour
• Momentum is IMPORTANT in the playoffs. The clips in these tweets do not signal anything "special" that other d-men could not do
• Holl also played the least amount of minutes among defensemen in Gm 4
• Holl is not the guy that drives offense or drives his pairing no matter what Keefe says.
• Gio's impact since Holl partnered up with him has been net negative. That d-pairing is not involved in offensive pressure like it did when Lily was in the line up
• Muzzin-Brodie are already in a sense a defensive d-men pairing in a sense; they do not engage in offensive cycle as often. That leaves only Rielly and Lyubushkin pairing. No wonder we do not get any offensive cycle going either.
• We got Gio here to help some offense while playing sound defensively. We did not get Gio to play defensive d-men role.

The tweets that you posted is by a major Dubas homer and stat BS guy. Like mirtle they sell fake BS narrative and monetize their fake BS. Eventually people will stop buying the BS they are selling.

Thank you for this logical breakdown. Personally, I’m a big fan of Keefe and Dubas. But their fascination with Justin Holl is inexplicably bad.

You can’t have epic mistakes against the back to back cup champions, and that’s a feature of Holl’s game. Doesn’t matter if he plays well or does the little things outside of that.

Tonight, all we can do is hope for the best. Desperately need our top line to pot a few.

 

[PromisedLand]

This live thread stuff is messing with my head man

Here is the remedy

• Click on your user name
  • Top right side
  • A drop down will come
  • Find "join user groups" (left side last option)

• A new page will open

Choose to join the group that keeps you out of live threads if you don't like it

 

[PromisedLand]

Thank you for this logical breakdown. Personally, I’m a big fan of Keefe and Dubas. But their fascination with Justin Holl is inexplicably bad.

You can’t have epic mistakes against the back to back cup champions, and that’s a feature of Holl’s game. Doesn’t matter if he plays well or does the little things outside of that.

Tonight, all we can do is hope for the best. Desperately need our top line to pot a few.

Gardiner had the same issue IMO. He was one of my fav d-men we had; he would make little plays well and drive the puck up the ice really well; but then he would have a gaffe that would be series defining in the playoffs.

And I think Gardiner >>> Holl of course when Gardiner was good

 

[willmma]

Giordano is probably wondering -> If he is the driver wtf am I

This guy provides a decent explanation for keeping Holl for the penalty kill.
Also makes a case for 11 F 7 D.

 

[PromisedLand]

This guy provides a decent explanation for keeping Holl for the penalty kill.
Also makes a case for 11 F 7 D.

11F and 7D makes more sense to me to be honest. Because if we are behind and we need goals; Holl is definitely not the answer.

 

[al secord]

Positive Tuesday. Holl will dummy someone and get first star! GLG!