Sonny Milano

Cowumbus

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Oh look, extreme hyperbole. Yes, everyone around here is calling him the next Crosby. What an asinine analogy.

Come on get your crap together and do some honest posting already. There is a huge gap between "bust" and "the next Crosby" that you could embrace. You know the place that most of are in. Instead you just go around trashing our prospects.

You're not even worth responding to because me and everyone else on this board all know that you think you're the smartest person on the earth and nobody but you could possibly be right. :)
 

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You're not even worth responding to because me and everyone else on this board all know that you think you're the smartest person on the earth and nobody but you could possibly be right. :)

Rule of thumb: If you think you're the smartest one in the room, you're in the wrong room. :laugh:
 

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my issue with him continues to be that most of his shots are backhands...he really needs to work on his forehand shooting in Cleveland this year to have a more rounded game and really become an offensive threat.

If he continues to rely on the backhand so much, teams at NHL level will figure it out quickly and key on it...
 

Tulipunaruusu*

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my issue with him continues to be that most of his shots are backhands...he really needs to work on his forehand shooting in Cleveland this year to have a more rounded game and really become an offensive threat.

Did you gave the same tip to Kai "goldwrist" Nurminen or Timo Susi whose reversion shot went nationwide.
 

Viqsi

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Did you gave the same tip to Kai "goldwrist" Nurminen or Timo Susi whose reversion shot went nationwide.

Can't speak to any of their other abilities on the ice, but Timo Susi never had an NHL career (and his Liiga career ended almost a decade before the Jackets existed; he's old enough to be my father), and Kai Nurminen's NHL career lasted all of 69 games. While it's nice for Milano to know that he might be able to carve out a career in Finland if all else fails, around here we kind of care about the Blue Jackets, and the Jackets play in the NHL.
 

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I would think European elite would suffice as examples. How about Ricardo Quaresma then... not the orthodox style but a nice career overall with ups and downs like almost every 'non-elite' career arch.

I am sure people could also name NHLers with differing skillsets if that is all there is. I just find it very narrow perspective in a world of ice hockey and team ball sports.

If the Blue Jackets have acquired this power, why not use it?
 

Viqsi

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I would think European elite would suffice as examples. How about Ricardo Quaresma then... not the orthodox style but a nice career overall with ups and downs like almost every 'non-elite' career arch.

I am sure people could also name NHLers with differing skillsets if that is all there is. I just find it very narrow perspective in a world of ice hockey and team ball sports.

If the Blue Jackets have acquired this power, why not use it?
The only "Ricardo Quaresma" I can find is a Portugese footballer. I don't know him at all; apparently his most notable appearances have been as an apparent regular on the Portugese men's team (56 caps since '03) and 22 appearances (with 1 goal) for FC Barcelona.

A reminder, since you seem to need it: we're talking about hockey here. Specifically, NHL hockey. :)
 

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Having a good backhand shot is always welcome, but it should never be seen as a go-to move. It's a complimentary tool in a player's tool box. Milano does need to improve his wrist/snap/slap shots or at least use them more frequently. You're not a dangerous scorer if all you can do is backhand.
 

Tulipunaruusu*

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Can't speak to any of their other abilities on the ice, but Timo Susi never had an NHL career (and his Liiga career ended almost a decade before the Jackets existed; he's old enough to be my father)...

Your Timo Susi comparison is actually quite brilliant when forecasting Frank Milano's contribution.

Timo Susi grew up in poor, after-war Finland from where Finns migrated to Sweden in search of work in the 1960's and 1970's. Industrial work for the likes of Volvo and Saab was lucrative and brought better standard of living. There are currently about 675 000 Swedish-Finns in Sweden. Timo Susi lived to see Finland turning from that state to a Nordic wellfare state. He saw the days of professional SM-liiga looming as his sun set. He just didn't grow in that new era or fully benefit from it. Not many could forge NHL careers in that environment.

Timo Susi innovated with his use of perfected reversion slap shot. He just didn't come from the optimal background to bring it to the NHL. Frank Milano has perfected his backhand. He has the optimal background to bring it to national league. Why shouldn't Blue Jackets utilize this power?

Who knows if in the year 2025 one of the most sought after individual skills in NHL is exceptional backhand.
 

Viqsi

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Your Timo Susi comparison is actually quite brilliant when forecasting Frank Milano's contribution.

Wait a sec. My comparison? I'm going to assume this is one of those English-as-a-second-language things, because I had no idea the guy had ever existed until you mentioned him just now.

And as for this Backhand Uber Alles mishegaas, I'm now just kind of wondering if you had similar world-beating expectations of Artem Anisimov while he was here.
 

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You're not even worth responding to because me and everyone else on this board all know that you think you're the smartest person on the earth and nobody but you could possibly be right. :)

And yet I notice you didn't bother to acknowledge your ignorant Crosby analogy. Instead of just backing off the statement you just attack me. No one thinks he's the next Crosby. To suggest that is dishonest and, actually, contemptible. Sorry if it's harsh, but it's pretty common around here and is a form of straw man posting.

Bravo!

On a side note, there are a lot of people excited about the potential of our prospects. All you've been doing is playing the kill-joy. We are coming off a sucky season, just let people have what little hope we have will you? For a few of our posters, they have no faith in our front office and/or coaching staff. Our prospects is about all they have. Maybe we can go into camp with a little bit of excitement and joy?
 
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Cowumbus

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And yet I notice you didn't bother to acknowledge your ignorant Crosby analogy. Instead of just backing off the statement you just attack me. No one thinks he's the next Crosby. To suggest that is dishonest and, actually, contemptible. Sorry if it's harsh, but it's pretty common around here and is a form of straw man posting.

Bravo!

On a side note, there are a lot of people excited about the potential of our prospects. All you've been doing is playing the kill-joy. We are coming off a sucky season, just let people have what little hope we have will you? For a few of our posters, they have no faith in our front office and/or coaching staff. Our prospects is about all they have. Maybe we can go into camp with a little bit of excitement and joy?

No I'm good, not my fault for having a realistic approach.
 

Cowumbus

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FYI, the opposite of "optimistic" is "pessimistic", not "realistic".

No duh. A pessimistic person would say none of our prospects will even make an impact in the NHL.

I'm sorry that in my opinion our board overvalued our prospects, and I'm sorry I have a hard time thinking Bjorkstrand and Dubois are gonna put up 40 point seasons. I think Werenskiwill be a 2/3 Dman PP specialist, rather than the next Doughty.i don't see how that's a bad, pessemistic view either. I just am saying MY opinion.
 
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Viqsi

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No duh. A pessimistic person would say none of our prospects will even make an impact in the NHL.

No, that's an overwhelmingly pessimistic person, the same way an overwhelmingly optimistic person would claim Werenski's going to be generational.
 

Xoggz22

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No duh. A pessimistic person would say none of our prospects will even make an impact in the NHL.

I'm sorry that in my opinion our board overvalued our prospects, and I'm sorry I have a hard time thinking Bjorkstrand and Dubois are gonna put up 40 point seasons. I think Werenskiwill be a 2/3 Dman PP specialist, rather than the next Doughty.i don't see how that's a bad, pessemistic view either. I just am saying MY opinion.

And you are entitled to your opinion... even if it is wrong.
 

Cowumbus

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No, that's an overwhelmingly pessimistic person, the same way an overwhelmingly optimistic person would claim Werenski's going to be generational.

And you are entitled to your opinion... even if it is wrong.

Both of your opinions are irrelevant to me. Continue to live in the Jackets Fan Fantasy land. I hope to one day be as wise as both of you, the all knowing.

And regardless of what you think my opinion is not wrong, please prove how it is wrong. Oh wait you cannot, Bc it's an opinion.
 

Viqsi

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Both of your opinions are irrelevant to me. Continue to live in the Jackets Fan Fantasy land. I hope to one day be as wise as both of you, the all knowing.

And regardless of what you think my opinion is not wrong, please prove how it is wrong. Oh wait you cannot, Bc it's an opinion.
Generally, when one's opinion goes so dramatically against popular opinion, and no reasoning whatsoever is given for that difference beyond "we suck and will always suck", it's safe to conclude that that opinion is ill-founded.

If you have actual reasoning to back up your we're-all-****ed-forever stance, please share.
 

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Generally, when one's opinion goes so dramatically against popular opinion, and no reasoning whatsoever is given for that difference beyond "we suck and will always suck", it's safe to conclude that that opinion is ill-founded.

If you have actual reasoning to back up your we're-all-****ed-forever stance, please share.

This is one of those pessimistic opinions I can't really hate. Stats and reasoning really don't mean that much when it comes to guessing what prospects are going to do in the future. Really all he seems to be saying is let's not get too excited about these prospects like we have all the others that didn't pan out like the experts thought they would.
 

Viqsi

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This is one of those pessimistic opinions I can't really hate. Stats and reasoning really don't mean that much when it comes to guessing what prospects are going to do in the future. Really all he seems to be saying is let's not get too excited about these prospects like we have all the others that didn't pan out like the experts thought they would.
If he'd limited it to that and not engaged in hyperbole and attacking other posters who disagreed, perhaps I could buy into that.
 

Monk

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If he'd limited it to that and not engaged in hyperbole and attacking other posters who disagreed, perhaps I could buy into that.

So in other words, "he's not wrong, he's just an *******."

So he might be right. I hope not.
 

Xoggz22

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Both of your opinions are irrelevant to me. Continue to live in the Jackets Fan Fantasy land. I hope to one day be as wise as both of you, the all knowing.

And regardless of what you think my opinion is not wrong, please prove how it is wrong. Oh wait you cannot, Bc it's an opinion.

Sensitive.... too sensitive. Opinions are like aholes, everybody has one. If you take all the replies so seriously you'll tie yourself up in knots. (Insert popcorn smiley here)
 

JacketsDavid

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Generally, when one's opinion goes so dramatically against popular opinion, and no reasoning whatsoever is given for that difference beyond "we suck and will always suck", it's safe to conclude that that opinion is ill-founded.

If you have actual reasoning to back up your we're-all-****ed-forever stance, please share.

One word: Ownership

Mr. Mac gave 100% control to an egomaniac who did his best to sink the franchise. His only solution was to hire his finance guy to fix things. Then based upon a recommendation from the NHL we hired Howson who at least wasn't as bad as Doug.

Now Mac2 hires another egomaniac who hires his scouting guy to be the GM. Scouting guy didn't insure his big free agent signing and led us to the wide word of Clarkson Contract.

Now they finish near the bottom and tell us "we're better than our record". That is code word (CBJ has used it before) to say we don' have enough money or roster spots to make any changes - but trust us we will win this team.

To this point after 16 years we have 2 playoff appearances and 0 playoff series wins. But you want to tell me you think this season will be better? Naïve I hope. If it wasn't for the Browns we would be the laughing stock of the entire state. Sadly we're so bad that half of the state probably doesn't even know we have a NHL franchise.
 

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