Confirmed with Link: [SJS/COL] Dubnyk for Pateryn and a 5th

[Barrie22]

I think that'd probably be a good move if they want to keep Melnichuk playing. Either that or see if any goalies hit waivers.

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This makes the most sense, no need to pick one over the other instantly. Let them both practice and play in the nhl and see who sticks.

 

[STL Shark]

If this team actually wants to compete this year, having two back-ups with zero nhl experience behind a very volatile Jones isn’t the way to do it. Pick a direction.

They're not actively trying to compete? Not sure why your panties are in a wad other than the fact that they're always in a wad. Selling the expiring UFAs as possible and not going to go out and bye. The direction is picked. Can't help the players and coaches are doing their damn job and playing better hockey against bad teams lately...

 

[TheBeard]

They have, the picked the refresh with the ability to still push for the playoffs.

The 0 nhl experience thing means nothing, lots of playoff contenders go into seasons with backups and some times starters that have barely any nhl experience.

It’s a floundering position if the goal is to put Jones in net for 15 out of the last, what 16 games? But then again they put themselves in this position. They can either make a push with Jones only to wear him out or they can wave the flag and at least play Kor for a 5 or 6 for better or worse. I don’t trust what BB says because frankly I don’t know if he knows what he wants to do.

 

[STL Shark]

This suggests that they aren’t sold on Jaros or Claesson if Vlasic has to be out awhile.

Or it could just be a contract to counter Dubnyk’s

Time will tell.

Guessing more the latter. Basically works as retention without having to use a retention. Can push Pateryn to the taxi squad as well and get more cap space to sell for assets.

 

[TheBeard]

They're not actively trying to compete? Not sure why your panties are in a wad other than the fact that they're always in a wad. Selling the expiring UFAs as possible and not going to go out and bye. The direction is picked. Can't help the players and coaches are doing their damn job and playing better hockey against bad teams lately...

Frankly I don’t know why either. Lol. They’re not, I think it’s the right move. I guess my annoyance has just bubbled over for a year and a half and I don’t know why now of all times it’s altering my perspective. It’s freaking Devan Dubnyk!

 

[TheBeard]

Question, as it stands and not that it matters but does the team have to protect Jones in the expansion draft?

 

[Barrie22]

It’s a floundering position if the goal is to put Jones in net for 15 out of the last, what 16 games? But then again they put themselves in this position. They can either make a push with Jones only to wear him out or they can wave the flag and at least play Kor for a 5 or 6 for better or worse. I don’t trust what BB says because frankly I don’t know if he knows what he wants to do.

Keeping dubnyk is the same as using an inexperienced goalie, can't actually be much worse then dubnyk is this year. He is making jones of last year look like martin brodeur.

 

[Barrie22]

Question, as it stands and not that it matters but does the team have to protect Jones in the expansion draft?

No they can still sign and protect korenar.

 

[TheBeard]

No they can still sign and protect korenar.

Thanks.

 

[TheBeard]

Keeping dubnyk is the same as using an inexperienced goalie, can't actually be much worse then dubnyk is this year. He is making jones of last year look like martin brodeur.

I feel he kind of got a raw deal here. If you look at who he played, out of the 17 games, only 2 were against the weaker Cali teams, both Anaheim and he gave up a combined 1 goal. They protected Jones so much and while it’s paying off now and it’s not like Devan did anything to steal the job, he was definitely set up to fail.

 

[Alwalys]

I feel he kind of got a raw deal here. If you look at who he played, out of the 17 games, only 2 were against the weaker Cali teams, both Anaheim and he gave up a combined 1 goal. They protected Jones so much and while it’s paying off now and it’s not like Devan did anything to steal the job, he was definitely set up to fail.

He was here to stabilize the situation in goal, and he was only really an option here because Jones was so abysmal. He was never going to be the starter unless he stole it which he did in like maybe one or two short spurts this season. Jones coming back to some kind of form is the literal desired outcome so alles gut.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Kinda +/- = 0 trade. Expected probably a little better, but not bad also.

 

[TheBeard]

He was here to stabilize the situation in goal, and he was only really an option here because Jones was so abysmal. He was never going to be the starter unless he stole it which he did in like maybe one or two short spurts this season. Jones coming back to some kind of form is the literal desired outcome so alles gut.

No doubt. But he was still set up to fail.

 

[themelkman]

The team announced this officially on social media which makes me think they're not planning on immediately flipping Pateryn. (Remember, they didn't announce Hoffman until they completed the second deal.)

If they don't plan on immediately flipping Pateryn, and instead acquired him with the hopes of playing him, that leads me to believe Vlasic's injury is a bit more serious than they previously thought.

Does Pateryn have value? To me it looks like a cap dump to keep salary even

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Okay so I misunderstood on Pateryn. There is no salary retained but he is buried in the minors so only half his contract counts against the cap.

 

[tealzamboni]

He was here to stabilize the situation in goal, and he was only really an option here because Jones was so abysmal. He was never going to be the starter unless he stole it which he did in like maybe one or two short spurts this season. Jones coming back to some kind of form is the literal desired outcome so alles gut.

In a way, his attaboys, arm around the shoulder, high fives, and attitude helped Joner and the Sharks get their groove back. So, he served a good cause, even if it wasn't done in net.

 

[Negatively Positive]

Now that Dub is gone and his job secure, Jones will go back to sucking again.

 

[STL Shark]

Okay so I misunderstood on Pateryn. There is no salary retained but he is buried in the minors so only half his contract counts against the cap.

I think he will get called up eventually. DW mentioned his wife just had a baby in So Cal but he expects him to be part of the active roster. Don't know that it makes sense though given Jaros should be getting those games to build something for the future. We all know DW doesn't always mean what he says and always praises the player(s) so maybe he just said that and will keep Pateryn on the taxi squad.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

This suggests that they aren’t sold on Jaros or Claesson if Vlasic has to be out awhile.

Or it could just be a contract to counter Dubnyk’s

Time will tell.

Colorado has little Cap space and probably wants to make more moves

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

This suggests that they aren’t sold on Jaros or Claesson if Vlasic has to be out awhile.

Or it could just be a contract to counter Dubnyk’s

Time will tell.

In the small sample size I saw from Claesson I actually liked what I saw.

 

[tealzamboni]

Oh no wonder they said jones would start today after yesterday's game

It also explains Boughner's presser comments about not being sure who starts in net and needing to think about it.

 

[Nighthock]

cool...

 

[OffSydes]

Fire DW

 

[TheBeard]

Colorado has little Cap space and probably wants to make more moves

I think they shot their shot with Nemeth as well. I don’t know what else they could need.

 

[Kcoyote3]

We pick up a 7th to move way back in the 5th... Meh. And we take on a cap dump.

Moving back in the 5th-7th round hardly matters. At that point the players from rounds 5-7 taken have about equal chance of becoming NHLers so having an extra one is really the only way to improve your odds of hitting