Orca Smash
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- Feb 9, 2012
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I recall our discussions and found them interesting and more civil than most at the time. I don’t disagree that full seasons *can* be more indicative of future play but that doesn’t mean this tournament isn’t indicative as well. Generally they tend to correlate fairly well with each other as the top players in jr leagues also tend to be the top players in this tournament. I don’t think they give drastically different results tbh. But I don’t find the SHL style of play to be overly similar to the NHL style and think yesterdays Canada-US game much more stylistically similar in terms of tempo, space, and physicality. Performing well in that environment gives me more comfort than struggling in it.
And of course we will see the ultimate result when they hit the NHL, that’s a given. But since we all seem to enjoy dissecting and projecting these kids well before then I figure it shouldn’t be a taboo topic.
It is not taboo, but you often quote me after i assumed we had this topic sorted and simply felt differently on this subject. I am completely fine with what opinions you post regarding the tournament, I know your position.
I am not sure without digging into the data i feel these jr games are that indicative, i have been burned to often on these tournaments one way or another. Someone like nylander, ehlers, hischier, point did very well in both, but i have also seen players like boeser, horvat, sergachev, draisaitl (off the top of my head) struggle as well at times, it feels like a crapshoot (drasaitl was also interesting because he played for a terrible team but people were upset he did nothing to help his team or stand out like ehlers for instance). And then when teams are often so lopsided in these tournaments someone like juolevi makes a name for themselves compared to someone like sergachev. Rantanen was another interesting one, tearing up the ahl but did not blow me away when the world jr's hit, but his ahl numbers were so incredible I learned to brush it off. For me personally I just feel they have led me astray to often when judging talent. Again this is just my opinion. You feel a bit differently which is fair.
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