Player Discussion Sheldon Keefe - All encompassing galaxy brain discussion

[Leaf Fans]

It's entirely possible that they do - unfortunately whoever that is doesn't have the head coaching position.

We have one occupying the head coaching position.

 

[Havoc]

I'll never understand why this guy never tries to make marner and nylander line mates.

Perfect opportunity to experiment has risen but he's still not taking it. Nylander is not going to stay on the 3rd line with Holmberg as his C. It's such a waste of time to try this instead.

Marner and Nylander can actually stomp the entire league together if they end up clicking. Opponents head would be spinning. We may never get to see it because no coach took the time to build the chemistry.

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Domi
Nylander-Tavares-Marner


We'd sweep through the playoffs assuming the remaining games allowed them to click.


Edit: You can actually drop Tavares to 3rd line for the Tavares-McMann 3rd line duo for your balanced scoring. They're amazing together in the bottom 6. Nylander and Marner can carry Holmberg if they end up clicking.

 

[Shooter2x]

Nylander-Marner is the best kept secret that may unfortunately always remain a secret.


Balancing is status quo in a watered down low cap league. I prefer the overload with top heavy group instead. Overload > balanced because overload can't be countered no matter what defensive strategy you choose. You just have to hope they don't score, or your goalie steals it (we have experience with this against the habs unfortunately....Top line let us down, but they still had the puck on a string in the offensive zone 99% of the series and Habs had no answer to get it back).

 

[Clark4Ever]

Keefe has done a lot of good things here, and his overall record is indicative of that. If he could just stay out of his own way, we would have likely achieved more success by now.

He needs to get it through his thick skull that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

We have one occupying the head coaching position.

If only the regular season mattered, I would have no objection to this statement.
The FACT that he's had his lunch handed to him playoff after playoff and gotten outcoached badly leads me to question Keefe and his ability to coach in the postseason.

Career record:
.668% in regular season
.433% in the playoffs

 

[crump]

"To have those guys (Matthews and Marner) on different lines presents some really good options and spreads out our scoring depth really well. So, we'll give it a look," coach Sheldon Keefe told reporters after Friday's practice.

Narrator: He didn’t.

 

[notDatsyuk]

We have one occupying the head coaching position.

Did they replace Keefe? I must have missed that.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Did they replace Keefe? I must have missed that.

No, they haven't. They might though in the future.

If only the regular season mattered, I would have no objection to this statement.
The FACT that he's had his lunch handed to him playoff after playoff and gotten outcoached badly leads me to question Keefe and his ability to coach in the postseason.

Career record:
.668% in regular season
.433% in the playoffs

He hasn't coached well. Obviously, his teams haven't had much success, but he is still an NHL coach.

 

[notDatsyuk]

No, they haven't. They might though in the future.

When they do, I hope they get a real NHL coach instead.

 

[Leaf Fans]

When they do, I hope they get a real NHL coach instead.

They have one now. If they fire Keefe, I hope they get a better coach.

 

[notDatsyuk]

They have one now. If they fire Keefe, I hope they get a better coach.

Keefe is an NHL coach in name only - we're talking about a good coach.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Keefe is an NHL coach in name only - we're talking about a good coach.

We are talking about a good coach, but if we can get a better one, we should.

 

[Lightsol]

But back to the point of a coach, to put players in positions to succeed, which keefe really seems to struggle to do

If there's one thing Keefe's VERY good at, it's putting players in positions to fail.

 

[Lightsol]

Sure, but why is Kampf going to cover a man Boosh already has. The D is fluid here, Boosh isn't really out of position he's covering the man behind the net, Brodie is in no man land and Kampf doesn't recognize the play. Anyways, Keefe shouldn't have that line out there and his excuse of not trusting the third line, well you constructed it that way lol.

It's actually worse than that. Kampf isn't trying to cover anyone, he's just puck watching. And he never ONCE turns to look at where his man (Point) is, which lets Point slip in front of the net alone and wait until someone gets him the puck. And I honestly don't know what Brodie is doing on this sequence at all, except attempting to double team a guy who had the puck for all of 2 seconds. Brodie's position means Tampa probably has another open winger somewhere.

 

[WTFMAN99]

DELETE

 

[Dreakmur]

He hasn't coached well. Obviously, his teams haven't had much success, but he is still an NHL coach.

He's an NHL coach in the same way Justin Holl is a top-4 defenseman.

 

[Leaf Fans]

He's an NHL coach in the same way Justin Holl is a top-4 defenseman.

No. It is completely different than that. Justin Holl was never good enough for the top four.

 

[thewave]

He is all galaxy and no brain.

 

[PromisedLand]

 

[Dreakmur]

No. It is completely different than that. Justin Holl was never good enough for the top four.

Yes, that's my entire point. Keefe has never been good enough for an NHL head coaching job.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

There is no galaxy braining it for Keefe.

That would imply he has a brain. When they first announced his hiring I thought the Leafs were getting the Cowardly Lion as head coach. Turns out it was the Scarecrow.

The Tin Man is Captain.

The whole team is a blend of Dorothy's companions. No heart, no courage, no brains. With Keefe the leader in that regard.

Galaxy braining it for Keefe just means doing dumb things.

Like putting Marner on defense. Or the short lived five forward power play. When he's really desperate he might go crazy and put Tavares on Matthews wing.

Respect in the handshake lineup is about all Leafs fans can expect with genius coaching like that.

 

[notDatsyuk]

We are talking about a good coach, but if we can get a better one, we should.

Yes, a good coach to replace Keefe would be much better.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Yes, that's my entire point. Keefe has never been good enough for an NHL head coaching job.

Sure, he has been.

Yes, a good coach to replace Keefe would be much better.

We need a better coach if we replace Keefe not a lateral move.

 

[wingman75]

So... we won?

That is credit to the players for persevering the coaching?

 

[notDatsyuk]

Sure, he has been.


We need a better coach if we replace Keefe not a lateral move.

When we replace Keefe, we are virtually guaranteed to have a better coach. A lateral move would just exascerbate the disaster.