Shea Weber 8A ?

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  1. Rich09

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    Shea Weber has now 8A. Are the expectations of HF a little bit to high in his case? I see a good phyical stay home defensemen. Maybe another Craig Rivet? But 8A is a lot more than that!
     
  2. DaveyCrockett

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    I wouldn't get too worked up over the ratings. They are pretty subjective and done by the individual writer for each team.
     
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    There are flaws everywhere. 8 for Weber isn't too bad, I don't know about an 'A' though.
     
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    7.5B should be more like it.
     
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    The problem is the "A".

    8B would have been ok.
     
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    ouch, rivet?

    weber was possibly the best defenseman in the CHL this year not named "Phaneuf"

    I will agree the "A" is a bit much...but Nashville rankings seem to be either ridiculously low or optimistically high. I'd say 8B is a better call, as a few have mentioned.
     
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    8 or 7.5 is ok, definetly not A though.

    8B or 7.5B IMHO
     
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    Agreed. Webber does deserve a good rating. He's nasty, he's plays great defense, he's extremely smart and he has an underrated scoring touch (he likes to jump into the play, and knows when it's the right time to do so). He's also a leader and leaves his guts on the ice. Very tough to play against.

    I would guess he's going to eventually develop into a #2 or #3 defensmen for the predators.
     
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    Number 3, if Suter and Hamhuis stick around ;)

    I can't wait to see what he does in Milwaukee next year. Suter especially, but Klein also, had terrific years and came a long way there. Suter could be a dark horse to make the Preds next year, but Klein will definitely be in Milwaukee again next year.
     
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    Letang fan 58 No More Fleury

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    I am a huge WK's fan so not likely the person who would be overstating how good Weber is.............However.........Weber is a horse...........the guy absolutely solidifies Kelowna's Defence.........He has been playing between 35 and 40 mins per night during the playoffs for Kelowna.........He is nasty to play against........he hits like a truck.....controls the crease extremely well.........seems to have good skating ability.......and his breakout pass is quite impressive as well.

    I also loved watching him play in the world juniors.......I believe he was the 2nd best defenceman in that tourney to Dion Phaneuf of course.

    I believe that Weber is the 2nd best Defence prospect that has yet to play in the NHL hands down.......Phaneuf is a bit more polished at this point and has proven himself for longer and even more dominant......but Weber I believe has a lot of the same potential.
     
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    Upshall now has a 7.5A, Suter a 8.5A and Klein has a 7A.

    I like all these players but there are few guarantees when it comes to prospects.

    I think Weber's 8A is goin way off the deep end.
     
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    There was a big piece on TSN (or was it sportsnet) on Webber. At one point they said many believe his skillset will tranlate to the NHL better than any defenseman in the WHL(and they specifically included Phaneuf). I really haven't seen much of him, so I really don't have an opinion about it, but the comment surprised the hell out of me.
     
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    So was Rivet... His last 2 OHL seasons were quite impressive:

    1992-93 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 64 19 55 74 117
    1993-94 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 61 12 52 64 100
     
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    I'll say 7A
     
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    I think 8B would be better for him. I don't think he's a sure bet to reach his full potential but he could.
     
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    8A is definitely a little far fetched. The comparision of Rivet is very interesting - he's not a better prospect than Rivet at the same age.
     
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    Whoever does Nashville's rankings must not watch a lot of junior hockey to rate everyone with an A.

    Suter should be an 8.5B, Klein a 7C/B, Upshall a 7.5B (MAYBE more realisticly a C) and Weber an 8B.
     
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    And Rivet turned out as a solid #3/4, which is exactly what I think that Weber will turn out to be. I think he is nastier than Rivet, though.
     
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    Weber has goen from an underrated prospect, to one of the most overrated prospects.

    An 8A is a huge joke, I've always seen him as a great 2nd pairing defencemen, a craig Rivet type is very well. I've compared him to Warrener at times.
     
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    I see him more in the mold of a Regehr/Hatcher than Rivet.
     
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    I think the thing that seperated him from those two is that he has a lot more bite and snarl.

    Not that that should up his rating, though...
     
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    Hmm. Watching him at the World Juniors I was most reminded of our own Robyn Regehr.
     
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    Well, I would disagree. No big deal. His performance at the World Juniors just cemented my already high thoughts about him.

    We've all seen what a high World Junior performance can do to the brain around here.. see Anthony Stewart.
     
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    Why wouldn't it? Being nasty to play against is a positive attribute in a defenseman. Some might not prefer that style but it certainly raises his stock over a similar prospect who isn't as mean, physical and nasty out there.
     
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    I think you took his comment a little too literal.

    He said Weber has "a bit more snarl" then those guys. Now you are saying it makes him better then a guy who isn't mean, physical, or nasty. I'm sure he doesn't disagree with that.

    But because Weber has a bit more snarl doesn't explain his A rating.
     
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