Speculation: Sharks Roster Discussion Part III

[Juxtaposer]

So, I think we can all agree that we don't want Ribeiro anywhere near our team. Raffi's blackface was ****** but not remotely comparable.

Let's stop discussing Ribeiro, if that's okay...

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[hohosaregood]

I'm sorry for bringing up Ribeiro.

 

[FunkyPhin]

I don't post much, so don't know if it's been discussed or not, but I think trying to grab Henrique would be a solid pick-up if we get him from the devils. They don't seem like their going anywhere this year, maybe we can get him at a decent price.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I'm sorry for bringing up Ribeiro.

No, it was definitely worth discussing but I didn't want it to get into a multi-page argument.

 

[hohosaregood]

I don't post much, so don't know if it's been discussed or not, but I think trying to grab Henrique would be a solid pick-up if we get him from the devils. They don't seem like their going anywhere this year, maybe we can get him at a decent price.

I like Henrique but I don't think there's much incentive for NJ to move him since they're pretty lacking in offensive talent right now. Other concern is that he's had a rough couple of years in the advanced stats department but he did well under Deboer.

 

[do0glas]

Im also officially disagreeing with any notion that

A. We need to go out and find a 3C
B. That it would be any cheaper than a goal scoring rental.

People are down on tierney. I get that. Having both him amd carp as 4c options would be great depth.

I personally dont think there is a 3c out there that offers what hertl offers. Im racking my brain. Maybe jordan staal.

 

[hohosaregood]

Im also officially disagreeing with any notion that

A. We need to go out and find a 3C
B. That it would be any cheaper than a goal scoring rental.

People are down on tierney. I get that. Having both him amd carp as 4c options would be great depth.

I personally dont think there is a 3c out there that offers what hertl offers. Im racking my brain. Maybe jordan staal.

Jordan Staal is a 1st liner in the same way that Hertl is right now. His scoring isn't flashy but he's a possession monster and Carolina values him highly.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Im also officially disagreeing with any notion that

A. We need to go out and find a 3C
B. That it would be any cheaper than a goal scoring rental.

People are down on tierney. I get that. Having both him amd carp as 4c options would be great depth.

I personally dont think there is a 3c out there that offers what hertl offers. Im racking my brain. Maybe jordan staal.

If Jordan Staal were available, we should be all over him. Unfortunately, I highly doubt Carolina wants to move him.

 

[do0glas]

If Jordan Staal were available, we should be all over him. Unfortunately, I highly doubt Carolina wants to move him.

I guess thats the salient point im making.

Ppl want to get a 3c to put hertl on the top line. But actual 3cs are probably not much of an upgrade to tierney. Maybe bozak? So to get the impact you want there you are paying a big price.

 

[FunkyPhin]

I like Henrique but I don't think there's much incentive for NJ to move him since they're pretty lacking in offensive talent right now. Other concern is that he's had a rough couple of years in the advanced stats department but he did well under Deboer.

There defence is pretty rough though too, Greene is getting old, so is Lovejoy, Severson is legit, no one else after him on the roster that I like, don't know much about their D prospects, maybe there's a trade involving some of our defensive prospects?

 

[Juxtaposer]

There defence is pretty rough though too, Greene is getting old, so is Lovejoy, Severson is legit, no one else after him on the roster that I like, don't know much about their D prospects, maybe there's a trade involving some of our defensive prospects?

I think there could be something there. Isn't Henrique a little expensive though?

 

[hohosaregood]

I think there could be something there. Isn't Henrique a little expensive though?

$4m. We'd need them to take back a lot of salary.

 

[FunkyPhin]

I think there could be something there. Isn't Henrique a little expensive though?

Signed at 4 mill, for the next 3 years, would require us to dump some cap space, Boedker? maybe Ward?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Signed at 4 mill, for the next 3 years, would require us to dump some cap space, Boedker? maybe Ward?

Forget a cap dump, I bet NJ could use Dillon.

 

[hohosaregood]

Forget a cap dump, I bet NJ could use Dillon.

Ooh I could definitely be down for Henrique for Dillon as a base.

 

[FunkyPhin]

Forget a cap dump, I bet NJ could use Dillon.

yeah, that works too lol

 

[Juxtaposer]

Ooh I could definitely be down for Henrique for Dillon as a base.

We'd probably have to add a quality piece but NJ could definitely use Dillon.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Forget a cap dump, I bet NJ could use Dillon.

Ooh I could definitely be down for Henrique for Dillon as a base.

I would be ok with this as well. I am just not sure how most teams value Dillon though.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I would be ok with this as well. I am just not sure how most teams value Dillon though.

Yeah, neither do I, which is why I would not go to the main boards with this idea.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Yeah, neither do I, which is why I would not go to the main boards with this idea.

Definitely an interesting idea though.

Dillon is signed through 2019-20 for 3.27M.
Henrique is signed through 2018-19 for 4M.

Both are 26. If Bleedred sees this maybe he can give some input.

 

[do0glas]

SJ finally has a third pairing they can rely on. break it up to get henrique. makes sense.

 

[WTFetus]

SJ finally has a third pairing they can rely on. break it up to get henrique. makes sense.

Yeah, I realize you can't just give picks+prospects most of the time, but I'm hesitant to trade any of our D for forwards even if we do need one (unless it's a huge difference maker like Duchene). I'm still not confident with playing Demelo or Heed full-time, especially in the playoffs.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

Vrbata just makes more sense than anybody else out there. Very small cap hit that we don't need to move any salary to accommodate (we'll have room to deal with his bonuses next year), will not cost much at all to acquire in terms of assets, has more points than all but two Sharks players this season, right-handed shot so there's a good chance he'll fit well with Thornton, will be a nice addition on the 2nd PP unit, allows us to move Hertl to 3C which I think we all agree is the best possible option for that role.

 

[WTFetus]

Vrbata just makes more sense than anybody else out there. Very small cap hit that we don't need to move any salary to accommodate (we'll have room to deal with his bonuses next year), will not cost much at all to acquire in terms of assets, has more points than all but two Sharks players this season, right-handed shot so there's a good chance he'll fit well with Thornton, will be a nice addition on the 2nd PP unit, allows us to move Hertl to 3C which I think we all agree is the best possible option for that role.

I agree that Vrbata would be ideal, but less than a handful of teams are truly out of the playoffs right now. I don't think he'll cost as little as we think he will.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I agree that Vrbata would be ideal, but less than a handful of teams are truly out of the playoffs right now. I don't think he'll cost as little as we think he will.

Arizona's asking price for Hanzal is a 1st and a top prospect. And someone will pay it. It's not worth giving assets for a marginal player like Vrbata, who has never had success anywhere but Arizona.