Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info & Discussion Thread XX

[coooldude]

I was really positively surprised by the overall quality of BC vs. BU

Also really helpful to see Macklin and Hutson vs the BC boys to get a level set. Macklin just has such a high % of making the right play, he's dangerous in so many ways, and he plays hard and a little nasty. Definitely popped on screen even in a "bad effort." Hutson meanwhile looked incredible on the puck but did get bullied numerous times by bigger forwards, highlighting his exact weakness for stepping to the next level. Gauthier looked solid in trying to contain Macklin and the freshman line looked extremely dangerous especially on the PP.

This is why the NCAA tourney is a gift, especially for picks 2-4... We can see prospect on prospect to get a better eval of Levshunov and Buium in particular. And we can see if Smith et al can keep coming up big in bigger and bigger games.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I was really positively surprised by the overall quality of BC vs. BU

Totally. I’ve watched nearly every BC game this year plus some sporadic BU/Denver/Michigan State games and they’re genuinely fun and entertaining to watch. Whereas when I try and watch CHL games, I can almost never get through a whole game because they’re such bad quality outside of the one prospect I watched for.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Alaskanice]

Congratulations, Luca!

 

[TheBeard]

I was a big fan of Bordeleau early on and then sort of lost hope for him. It’s really nice to see him succeeding. I’m still curious what his ceiling is — but certainly, if he keeps it up, I think he can be a top 6 winger.

Don't know what happened with him but he seems to be a much more cerebral player in that he's showing a much better hockey sense without the puck. He used to be absolutely lost without the puck on his stick, but now he just instinctively knows where to go (not always, but infinitely greater than late last year and earlier this season).

 

[Barrie22]

I think people tend to forget that last year was bords 1st pro hockey season.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Jargon]

Don't know what happened with him but he seems to be a much more cerebral player in that he's showing a much better hockey sense without the puck. He used to be absolutely lost without the puck on his stick, but now he just instinctively knows where to go (not always, but infinitely greater than late last year and earlier this season).

As much as I think McCarthy might be a bad coach, it’s a good sign that Eklund, Bordeleau, Guschin and Muhk all has significant growth under him. Could be the players but obviously there’s some good teaching happening.

 

[TheBeard]

As much as I think McCarthy might be a bad coach, it’s a good sign that Eklund, Bordeleau, Guschin and Muhk all has significant growth under him. Could be the players but obviously there’s some good teaching happening.

I'm not going to give Coach any credit. Eklund was already drafted for his smarts so it's not that surprising. Shakir was already playing at a high level in NJ and Bordeleau spent enough time at Michigan, playing in an elite system and he just needed everything to click. Gush was also a second rounder, as much praise as we give him for his season did actually take a real step back in terms of scoring.

My point is McCarthy needs to f***ing go. If we're this hellbent on rebuilding and developing kids, then put a goddamn real coaching staff on the Cuda. Keep Mass because I think he's done a good job with the defense corp there.

 

[hohosaregood]

Totally. I’ve watched nearly every BC game this year plus some sporadic BU/Denver/Michigan State games and they’re genuinely fun and entertaining to watch. Whereas when I try and watch CHL games, I can almost never get through a whole game because they’re such bad quality outside of the one prospect I watched for.

Nowadays, I don't see any legit argument for CHL > NCAA hockey. The quality is just on another level now vs 5 years ago.

 

[Munnyro]

Nowadays, I don't see any legit argument for CHL > NCAA hockey. The quality is just on another level now vs 5 years ago.

Which is why the NCAA and CHL are working on an agreement to allow players to transfer - NHL preparing for possible CHL-NCAA rule change

 

[Alaskanice]

I'm not going to give Coach any credit. Eklund was already drafted for his smarts so it's not that surprising. Shakir was already playing at a high level in NJ and Bordeleau spent enough time at Michigan, playing in an elite system and he just needed everything to click. Gush was also a second rounder, as much praise as we give him for his season did actually take a real step back in terms of scoring.

My point is McCarthy needs to f***ing go. If we're this hellbent on rebuilding and developing kids, then put a goddamn real coaching staff on the Cuda. Keep Mass because I think he's done a good job with the defense corp there.

Not to nitpick but Goose was a third round pick.

 

[TheBeard]

Not to nitpick but Goose was a third round pick.

Fair. My bad. Point still stands.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Which is why the NCAA and CHL are working on an agreement to allow players to transfer - NHL preparing for possible CHL-NCAA rule change

That would be great for Musty

 

[Hodge]

OHL players with higher PPG than Musty in their D+1 season since 2010: Sam Bennett, Mitch Marner, Alex DeBrincat, Dylan Strome and Connor McMichael.

McDavid, Rossi and Marner cleared Musty in their draft years.

But a bit of a cautionary tale might be Taylor Raddysh whose D+1 production was just shy of Musty's (1.88 PPG vs. 1.92) but hasn't turned into much in the NHL. Similar size too.

 

[LilLeeroy]

OHL players with higher PPG than Musty in their D+1 season since 2010: Sam Bennett, Mitch Marner, Alex DeBrincat, Dylan Strome and Connor McMichael.

McDavid, Rossi and Marner cleared Musty in their draft years.

But a bit of a cautionary tale might be Taylor Raddysh whose D+1 production was just shy of Musty's (1.88 PPG vs. 1.92) but hasn't turned into much in the NHL. Similar size too.

Thought Dvorak did too but that was his D+2 season I guess.

Definitely not a bad list all things considered. And Musty did it without turning 19 until July, and not having a guaranteed superstar on his line even though Goyette is pretty good and he shared the PP with Dvorsky.

 

[Barrie22]

I just noticed something, someone that follows the wolves more, why did musty lose his A? He was an assistant last year and then this year he isn't according to elite prospects

 

[Hodge]

Let's not forget that our top 10 prospects the day before Grier took over were something like Eklund, Bordeleau, Gushchin, Merkley, Kniazev, Coe, Wiesblatt, Laroque, Hatakka and Gaudreau. To upgrade from that to Smith, Musty, Shak, Edstrom, Bystedt, Thrun, Halttunen, Lund, Cagnoni and Havelid in less than 2 years is a miracle. We've moved from "most of these guys are magic beans" territory to "there are legit prospects like Furlong, Thompson and Cardwell I had to leave off the list."

 

[LilLeeroy]

Let's not forget that our top 10 prospects the day before Grier took over were something like Eklund, Bordeleau, Gushchin, Merkley, Kniazev, Coe, Wiesblatt, Laroque, Hatakka and Gaudreau. To upgrade from that to Smith, Musty, Shak, Edstrom, Bystedt, Thrun, Halttunen, Lund, Cagnoni and Havelid in less than 2 years is a miracle. We've moved from "most of these guys are magic beans" territory to "there are legit prospects like Furlong, Thompson and Cardwell I had to leave off the list."

Remember after the Hertl extension when Joe Will explained the decision to extend Hertl rather than trade him by talking about how they expected a 19 year old Eklund, a 20 year old Bordeleau, and Dahlen to help them be a playoff team next season?

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

IF he was any good of a prospect he wouldnt have needed a secondary year

 

[Munnyro]

IF he was any good of a prospect he wouldnt have needed a secondary year

Clearly you don't know Mr. Smith and "secondary" things.

 

[Albatros]

The 1995 Sharks 1st round pick (#12) Teemu Riihijärvi has now came back from retirement (since 2005) and joined top-level hockey with the Puckers Luxembourg of the Luxembourg Hockey League.

Puckers Luxembourg - Teemu RIIHIJARVI

Puckers Luxembourg - Teemu RIIHIJARVI

www.puckers.lu

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

The 1995 Sharks 1st round pick (#12) Teemu Riihijärvi has now came back from retirement (since 2005) and joined top-level hockey with the Puckers Luxembourg of the Luxembourg Hockey League.

Puckers Luxembourg - Teemu RIIHIJARVI

Puckers Luxembourg - Teemu RIIHIJARVI

www.puckers.lu

Sign him..