Post-Game Talk: Sens win the cup, beat habs 5-2

[llamateizer]

OT look like an all star game.
after an intense regular time matchup, they end up playing ballet dancing.

It's fun to watch, but I prefer shootout

 

[Rapala]

Anyone with a pair of eyes could see the habs were dominating and that Anderson played very well. They look significantly more creative this year and that bodes well for a scoring uptick.

By all means, however, keep *****ing about how the habs can't score before they've even played a meaningful game.

I'm gonna go way out on a limb and say MT will ratchet back the loosey goosey play we saw last night.
Ottawa may have been fortunate on some of their goals but the common denominator was most had multiple players going to the net or multiple players screening in front. Simple hard hockey plays that they used every chance they could. So while the impression was that we dominated with whatever the amount of shots we generated were, the reality is quite the opposite. Todays NHL tender is gonna stop those about ohhhh .960 of the time when there is little to no traffic. Besides the two goals we scored we really only had the Eller chance that was a glorious opportunity. The others were all pressured plays with bouncing pucks and little velocity...
It never fails we always make Anderson look good.

 

[JusticeBeaver]

While it was good to see the habs owning offensive zone possesion for a change, the quality scoring chances from the slot didn't improve.

That said, I did see a lot of nice zone entries, carrying the puck and puck movement. There's some good and some bad, but at least there is improvement.

 

[waffledave]

Anyone with a pair of eyes could see the habs were dominating and that Anderson played very well. They look significantly more creative this year and that bodes well for a scoring uptick.

By all means, however, keep *****ing about how the habs can't score before they've even played a meaningful game.

Right... Keep going on about how the Habs "dominated" even though they had 6 straight goals scored against them.

Just like how they "dominated" against Tampa and lost 3 in a row and blew the series.

Just like how they "dominated" against Ottawa in the playoffs and almost blew a 3 game lead.

Just like how they "dominated" all last year even though they didn't win a game that wasn't because of Price.

It was just bad luck right? Bad luck that the PP can't score, bad luck that the team struggles to score more than 2 goals. Just 2 years of really bad luck.

"dominated" .... come on...

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

After 2010-2011 where we've been pounded by the Bruins, Habs fans started being against fighting.

Now, after a couple of bad performances in 3 on 3, Habs fans are against 3 on 3 OT.


Might it be that Habs fans are just sore losers? Seriously, play by the rules and stop complaining.

 

[Rapala]

The Habs haven't dominated anything since the 70's

 

[ColinO]

There were 16 points separating the top 16 teams last year. Nobody is dominating anymore. At the same time, anyone who makes the playoffs has a chance to win.

 

[Lshap]

Right... Keep going on about how the Habs "dominated" even though they had 6 straight goals scored against them.

Dominated overall? No. The D sucked and Price was playing on 3rd gear. Shooting remains a big question, although Semin and Kassian add the exact quality of hands we were missing. On paper at least, shooting % should improve.

But looking at the breakouts and the play in the o-zone, yes, Montreal did dominate. Like the Habs did in the playoffs, we can dominate a team like Ottawa with superior forechecking and possession. Of course, we still have to put the puck in the net. But last night the problem area of puck-possession looked good, even if our normally strong backend was terrible.

Just like how they "dominated" against Tampa and lost 3 in a row and blew the series.

Just like how they "dominated" against Ottawa in the playoffs and almost blew a 3 game lead.

Habs dominated Ottawa in the playoffs. In shots, in chances, and in wins. If anyone was lucky, it was the Sens.

You can just as easily say Tampa "almost blew a 3 game lead" against Montreal. Plus, Montreal outshot them by a HUGE margin, and that doesn't count the goalposts.

Just like how they "dominated" all last year even though they didn't win a game that wasn't because of Price.

You don't help your argument by exaggerating. I'm more interested in how things flipped around in the playoffs. The irony is that Price didn't out-duel either Anderson or Bishop. He was good, but wasn't the biggest deciding factor as he sometimes was during the season. The team played well; Tampa's shooters were the difference.

 

[HCH]

I thought Montreal was clearly the better team but defensive breakdowns cost them dearly

Subban is all over the map looking like a million dollars one minute and 10 cents the next. He doesn't use his team mates as well as he could and defensive zone coverage seemed foreign to him last night. Is it going to be one of those years where you love him one night and shake your head the next.
I like Emelin but thought he got caught not covering his man a couple of times last night. No excuses, he has to be better.
Beaulieu looked like the best defenseman on the team. He is playing with confidence.
Juulsen looked good for a rookie in his first game.
Gilbert and Markov both looked steady to me - not spectacular but steady

 

[Pronto]

Sens fan coming in peace.

I was at the game last night and the Habs definitely dominated the Sens in possession. I think the main reason for this domination in puck possession is, once again, your speed exposed our slow Ds and their ineffiency in getting the puck out of the zone. Now, did that possession translated into scoring chances? Sure but probably not enough... it was more of a quantity vs a quality thing IMO. Adding the fact that Andy played well, Price had an off night and the Habs' play in their own end was not pretty, you end up with the result we saw on the scoreboard. Let's see what the final pre-season game brings us.

 

[Kriss E]

After 2010-2011 where we've been pounded by the Bruins, Habs fans started being against fighting.

Now, after a couple of bad performances in 3 on 3, Habs fans are against 3 on 3 OT.


Might it be that Habs fans are just sore losers? Seriously, play by the rules and stop complaining.

Fighting has nothing to do with the poundings of 10-11, it's because the whole damn league is on a decline with fights. Heck, even the big bad bruins got rid of their bigger fighters.

As for the 3 on 3, people were skeptical before they even saw it happen. When they did, it only reinforced their opinion. It has nothing to do with winning or losing.
I have no idea what our shootout records are, but I think they're dumb as crap and should be removed, even if we were 100-1.

Just because someone has a different opinion than yours doesn't mean they're complaining.

 

[Kriss E]

Dominated overall? No. The D sucked and Price was playing on 3rd gear. Shooting remains a big question, although Semin and Kassian add the exact quality of hands we were missing. On paper at least, shooting % should improve.

But looking at the breakouts and the play in the o-zone, yes, Montreal did dominate. Like the Habs did in the playoffs, we can dominate a team like Ottawa with superior forechecking and possession. Of course, we still have to put the puck in the net. But last night the problem area of puck-possession looked good, even if our normally strong backend was terrible.

The problem is our poor defensive play isn't new. We played the same way we played for the past 2 seasons. It's a complete crap show in our zone. Poor positioning from pretty much every one, lack of structure, chasing guys around like chickens with their heads cut off.
So I'm skeptical this will improve.

 

[missthenet]

The problem is our poor defensive play isn't new. We played the same way we played for the past 2 seasons. It's a complete crap show in our zone. Poor positioning from pretty much every one, lack of structure, chasing guys around like chickens with their heads cut off.
So I'm skeptical this will improve.

And now the same guy is running the PP. what a joke MT does not want anyone there that could replace him. where is KM when we could use him?

 

[Wats]

After 2010-2011 where we've been pounded by the Bruins, Habs fans started being against fighting.

Now, after a couple of bad performances in 3 on 3, Habs fans are against 3 on 3 OT.

Might it be that Habs fans are just sore losers? Seriously, play by the rules and stop complaining.

After 2010-2011 Habs fans were against pushing player's head into stanchions while they are without a puck. NHL is as well since they put in padding right after.

NHL is against fighting, seems like every year there's another rule to lower it's frequency...guess Habs fans' stance are right with the times there as well.

Since when are the Habs fans the only one against 3 on 3? Let me guess, Habs fans were only ones complaining about shootouts too. Seriously, should try seeing what other fans say before whining about Habs fans.

 

[HCH]

Right... Keep going on about how the Habs "dominated" even though they had 6 straight goals scored against them.

Just like how they "dominated" against Tampa and lost 3 in a row and blew the series.

Just like how they "dominated" against Ottawa in the playoffs and almost blew a 3 game lead.

Just like how they "dominated" all last year even though they didn't win a game that wasn't because of Price.

It was just bad luck right? Bad luck that the PP can't score, bad luck that the team struggles to score more than 2 goals. Just 2 years of really bad luck.

"dominated" .... come on...

A couple of defensive breakdowns and a couple of weak goals and the world is ending.

And if you want to compare last year to this year on all aspects of the game, you forgot to include how many times the Habs outshot the opposition in the first period. Eventually scoring chances turn into goals. Last year the team had few, in this game they had quite a few - completely different situation.

Habs dominated the play; Ottawa dominated the scoring.

Is that a little better?

 

[OnTheRun]

The problem is our poor defensive play isn't new. We played the same way we played for the past 2 seasons. It's a complete crap show in our zone. Poor positioning from pretty much every one, lack of structure, chasing guys around like chickens with their heads cut off.
So I'm skeptical this will improve.

This.

And if it doesn't improve and if Price can't bail us out on a regular basis like he did last year, we will see a lots of so called "fluke" goal for the other team.

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

There were 16 points separating the top 16 teams last year. Nobody is dominating anymore. At the same time, anyone who makes the playoffs has a chance to win.

Apparently we have none because Desharnaisitis.

 

[bouquet]

Apparently we have none because Desharnaisitis.

Desharnais gave his disease

 

[jaffy27]

Right... Keep going on about how the Habs "dominated" even though they had 6 straight goals scored against them.

Just like how they "dominated" against Tampa and lost 3 in a row and blew the series.

Just like how they "dominated" against Ottawa in the playoffs and almost blew a 3 game lead.

Just like how they "dominated" all last year even though they didn't win a game that wasn't because of Price.

It was just bad luck right? Bad luck that the PP can't score, bad luck that the team struggles to score more than 2 goals. Just 2 years of really bad luck.

"dominated" .... come on...

So if Habs almost blew it against the Sens, then Tampa almost blew it against us??.....your analogy is if we lose 2-1, we suck, we can't score but if we win 2-1, we're lucky the other team didn't beat us.

PP sucks cause the guy coaching it is not very good
We won many games signed Pacioretty, or Galchenyuk or Subban. Why is it okay for New Jersey to rely on Brodeur all these years but God forbid we rely on Price??...of course we rely on him, he's top 3 PLAYER in the NHL and our best player...

If we were dominated in play and shots, but won 4-2, you'd complain that we got dominated and we were lucky, now the roles are reversed, and Ottawa just capitalized on their opportunities!!

You just want to complain for the sake of complaining.....

 

[Rapala]

Apparently we have none because Desharnaisitis.

I for one am impressed.
You are proving to be a very quick study.

 

[studDUGY]

Right... Keep going on about how the Habs "dominated" even though they had 6 straight goals scored against them.

Just like how they "dominated" against Tampa and lost 3 in a row and blew the series.

Just like how they "dominated" against Ottawa in the playoffs and almost blew a 3 game lead.

Just like how they "dominated" all last year even though they didn't win a game that wasn't because of Price.

It was just bad luck right? Bad luck that the PP can't score, bad luck that the team struggles to score more than 2 goals. Just 2 years of really bad luck.

"dominated" .... come on...

Probably the most dramatic Habs fan in here.

Yes, they dominated the game.

The Habs also, in fact, dominated Tampa and Ottawa last year in the playoffs.

Please enlighten me as to how, for instance, the Sens' first goal yesterday isn't due to bad luck.

Just stop complaining already. It's pre-season. Lots of positives come out of yesterday's loss, believe it or not.

 

[vHAB]

So if Habs almost blew it against the Sens, then Tampa almost blew it against us??.....your analogy is if we lose 2-1, we suck, we can't score but if we win 2-1, we're lucky the other team didn't beat us.

PP sucks cause the guy coaching it is not very good
We won many games signed Pacioretty, or Galchenyuk or Subban. Why is it okay for New Jersey to rely on Brodeur all these years but God forbid we rely on Price??...of course we rely on him, he's top 3 PLAYER in the NHL and our best player...

If we were dominated in play and shots, but won 4-2, you'd complain that we got dominated and we were lucky, now the roles are reversed, and Ottawa just capitalized on their opportunities!!

You just want to complain for the sake of complaining.....

Haha, so true. To be fair, many Habs fans suffer from this kind of mentality. Hard to understand how they can even enjoy following the team.

 

[Nynja*]

Habs fans are against 3 on 3 OT.

I've been against the "loser point" since its inception. If they want a "loser point", there should be a full 3 point system.

 

[Hackett]

It's not unlucky. People need to stop believing this garbage.

This is how the team plays. They can't finish. They generate a ton of shots that have no chance of turning into goals. They shoot so much that it creates turnovers and they get scored on.

You should have just stopped at "they can't finish". Last night, the habs produced quite a few legitimate chances, and had played with the puck alot more than usual.

There were many nights last season where you could make your argument, but last night was a bad example to use.

 

[Lshap]

The problem is our poor defensive play isn't new. We played the same way we played for the past 2 seasons. It's a complete crap show in our zone. Poor positioning from pretty much every one, lack of structure, chasing guys around like chickens with their heads cut off.
So I'm skeptical this will improve.

We mostly agree on the bad habit our defence has of retreating into our own zone and allowing the opposition to enter and set up. Maybe it's done because guys like Emelin can't turn around without losing his man, I really don't know.

But even with that weird strategy, the Habs have good and bad games. Last night was definitely bad. The positioning was a mess. Also lazy, which is easier to accept from the vets given it's only pre-season.