OT: Sens Lounge CVII - The Summer (of Dorion) Edition

[coladin]

Here’s something I have noticed. Lots of kids I know are on social media a lot less now.

My daughters definitly use Snapchat and Instagram to communicate amongst their peers, but they seem to have very little interest in following strangers, or communicating with strangers at all.

They seem to be aware of much of the online pitfalls now, it’s a Wild West for sure, but the kids are adapating.

It reminds me of the early years of facebook, and even Twitter. Everyone was connecting, sharing their life monilogues, posting picture of everything, posting tweets all the time… And now? Most people I know stopped doing any of that, with the most extreme dropping social media accounts all together. Before dropping most of my ‘friends list’ on Facebook my page became the story of like two people, no one else posted, or cared about their oversharing.

There‘s always a push back. I wonder if social media being so toxic is a consequence of so many positive folks just not being there anymore. Just like the guy constantly complaining eventually gets ignored in the work place, social media allows all of that to congregate together, and it’s the other folk who tend to leave after a while, because in the end it serves no purpose beyond brining you down.

Kids are like that too, lots of them have zero interest in shitty online behaviour, and they tend to band together.

They are even desensitized to horrors of the world because they can just scroll to the next pic...and yes kids are remarkably clever and they navigate a world in which I would rather not live in as a teenager. How many of them can function and deal with it is incredible, which is why that Dove commercial broke me a bit.

Society is starting to push back a bit with regards to social media, but I don't know where that will lead to and how far

 

[Ice-Tray]

They are even desensitized to horrors of the world because they can just scroll to the next pic...and yes kids are remarkably clever and they navigate a world in which I would rather not live in as a teenager. How many of them can function and deal with it is incredible, which is why that Dove commercial broke me a bit.

Society is starting to push back a bit with regards to social media, but I don't know where that will lead to and how far

It’s true, and I agree.

Its interesting to me because there are so many jarring inconsistencies. From personal experience we know that young boys have all the porn and sexual secrets laid on display for them, and thus should be completely desensitized, and yet the young boys that have been around my daughters all seem awkward, gentle, eager to please, and from their (my daughters) stories make sure to ask to touch and apologize for potential oversteps.

In other words, in my small situational knowledge, some young boys seem to still be able to find themselves being awkward and gentle with some young girls.

I don’t know where it will go either, but some of what I see around me at least gives me some hope.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

to anyone, who has young children and have NOT seen the documentary

The Creepy Line - Full Documentary on Social Media's manipulation of society​

do yourself, and your children a favour, and watch it asap, it’s available, in full, on Amazon Prime, Rumble and YouTube …

 

[Stylizer1]

The problem lies with the parents. From a baby they watch and do what their parents do. If you are constantly on your phone around them they will see it as a regular thing. I've seen 8 year old kids with cell phones. People will come up the every excuse why their kids need a phone but it really comes down to lazy parenting.

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

The problem lies with the parents. From a baby they watch and do what their parents do. If you are constantly on your phone around them they will see it as a regular thing. I've seen 8 year old kids with cell phones. People will come up the every excuse why their kids need a phone but it really comes down to lazy parenting.

I'm on my phone a lot (too much to be honest). But it's mostly in the evenings. And I have pretty rules for tablet time for my kids. Although that does go out the window when traveling or sick.

I will also have pretty tight control over their phones when they are young. And will likely make them charge their phones in another room than their bedrooms.

But I haven't come to the point where I need to think about phones for kids. So who the heck knows

 

[Ice-Tray]

Parenting isn’t easy, judging from afar is easy.

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

Parenting isn’t easy, judging from afar is easy.

Oh so hard. And kids are so different.

My first was a breeze compared to my second so far. My second is full of angst

 

[Stylizer1]

Parenting isn’t easy, judging from afar is easy.

To each their own. You have to prepare your kids how to interact with most things in life to a certain age. The internet is no different. Letting them figure it out is a kin to hoping their teacher teaches them everything they need to know.

 

[Ice-Tray]

To each their own. You have to prepare your kids how to interact with most things in life to a certain age. The internet is no different. Letting them figure it out is a kin to hoping their teacher teaches them everything they need to know.

I agree, but I also know that my kids have to learn how to live in their world, not my world, so it’s not as simple as it is to say.

I’m hesitant to label any parent as ‘lazy’ this easily regardless.

 

[Stylizer1]

I agree, but I also know that my kids have to learn how to live in their world, not my world, so it’s not as simple as it is to say.

I’m hesitant to label any parent as ‘lazy’ this easily regardless.

I just hate it when an adult hands their phone over to a 5 year old so they can watch stuff or play games. You really should keep them away from a screen as long as you can. They will interact with all of that stuff outside of the house like at school or other peoples homes. You have to let them discover the world physically before virtually. Saturday mornings used to be great for turning your brain off and just watching 3-4 hours of cartoons. Now it's 24-7 and 100 times more immersive. The best thing you can do is teach your kids how to deal with boredom without having to pick up an electronic device. That's why you don't see kids outside anymore on the weekends.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I just hate it when an adult hands their phone over to a 5 year old so they can watch stuff or play games. You really should keep them away from a screen as long as you can. They will interact with all of that stuff outside of the house like at school or other peoples homes. You have to let them discover the world physically before virtually. Saturday mornings used to be great for turning your brain off and just watching 3-4 of cartoons. Now it's 24-7 and 100 times more immersive. The best thing you can do is teach your kids how to deal with boredom without having to pick up an electronic device. That's why you don't see kids outside anymore on the weekends.

I've seen one kid on my street in the past five years. One.

And the only time he's out, it's because he's playing with his dad. Helping (as much as a toddler to 5-year-old can help) shovel the driveway or rake leaves, and then make snow angels and have a bit of fun before going back in the house.

It's so sweet to see, but also sad knowing most kids aren't playing (in that way) as much as previous generations. The memories he's making with his dad throwing leaves in the air and having snowball fights are something he'll cherish forever (both of them will cherish forever).

 

[Ice-Tray]

I just hate it when an adult hands their phone over to a 5 year old so they can watch stuff or play games. You really should keep them away from a screen as long as you can. They will interact with all of that stuff outside of the house like at school or other peoples homes. You have to let them discover the world physically before virtually. Saturday mornings used to be great for turning your brain off and just watching 3-4 hours of cartoons. Now it's 24-7 and 100 times more immersive. The best thing you can do is teach your kids how to deal with boredom without having to pick up an electronic device. That's why you don't see kids outside anymore on the weekends.

I mean I don’t disagree with much of this theory, I just also know that in practice I wouldn’t judge from a single viewing what is going on.

I also don’t agree that what you’re describing is the overarching parenting method now, given that I don’t know any parents that do this as their go to. Devices are occasional in my children’s circles, and most parents are embarrassed that they feel they need to use them for a break at times. We are all generally supportive because sometimes people need a break, and you can’t just kick an 8 year old out of the house to find friends at the park anymore, as you said.

I can’t keep my teenagers home on the weekends, older kids are playing in the parks out here for sure.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

I just hate it when an adult hands their phone over to a 5 year old so they can watch stuff or play games. You really should keep them away from a screen as long as you can. They will interact with all of that stuff outside of the house like at school or other peoples homes. You have to let them discover the world physically before virtually. Saturday mornings used to be great for turning your brain off and just watching 3-4 hours of cartoons. Now it's 24-7 and 100 times more immersive. The best thing you can do is teach your kids how to deal with boredom without having to pick up an electronic device. That's why you don't see kids outside anymore on the weekends.

This post, instantaneously brought this to my mind….

Many years ago, when my Son was very young, took to a park, and he was on a swing, and there was another young child in the park, perhaps a couple of years older telling me how proud she was, about some video game she played at home, and asked me if I played video games when I was her age. I told her there was something so much bigger and better that I spent pretty much all of my time with, when I was her age, that took the vast majorly of my playtime, instead of playing video games….. she seemed super interested and asked what this thing was, that was so much better that video games… I told her “outside!”


As for cell/smart/mobile phones for children… I sensed the downside of these devices at least two decades ago… when I saw a report of the new fad of “texting” that was overtaking the youth of Japan, at least a year or more before texting was available in North America… and the issues that they we’re experiencing in Japan, and I was determined that my Son would not have any personal Device until he was old enough to fully understand the pros and cons associated with them. To this day he has never owned a mobile phone of any kind… as he fully understands that the cons still outweigh the pros…

 

[Stylizer1]

Anyone seen the latest episode of the Joe Rogan Experience with Cardiologis and professor Dr. Aseem Malhotra?

News flash: It's about covid but it's extremely informative.

 

[DrEasy]

Anyone seen the latest episode of the Joe Rogan Experience with Cardiologis and professor Dr. Aseem Malhotra?

News flash: It's about covid but it's extremely informative.

I saw the bit about statins and cholesterol, which I found interesting. But is this guy legit? Who knows anymore.

 

[Stylizer1]

I saw the bit about statins and cholesterol, which I found interesting. But is this guy legit? Who knows anymore.

I listened to the whole thing and I don't doubt he is knows a thing or two about medicine. I guess we will have to wait a few days for mainstream media to find yet another angle to discredit guests on a podcast more popular than their networks.

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

I saw the bit about statins and cholesterol, which I found interesting. But is this guy legit? Who knows anymore.

I'll have to take a listen and see what our cardiologists at work think.

I remember him talking to some Dr about CRP and it was extremely misguided giving really sketchy information about cardiac function and vaccination. The unfortunate thing was that to a person that doesn't understand the function, it can seem very persuading for anti vaccination.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I listened to the whole thing and I don't doubt he is knows a thing or two about medicine. I guess we will have to wait a few days for mainstream media to find yet another angle to discredit guests on a podcast more popular than their networks.

The man has a whole section on his Wikipedia page titled "Public health campaigns and misinformation". He's been rebuffed by organizations including the UK National Health Service, fellow cardiologists and professors, the American Heart Association, Agence France-Presse and the British Heart Foundation.

Like, if that's what you want to believe, have at it, but let's not pretend like he hasn't already been heavily criticized for cherrypicking data and provide incomplete views.

 

[Stylizer1]

The man has a whole section on his Wikipedia page titled "Public health campaigns and misinformation". He's been rebuffed by organizations including the UK National Health Service, fellow cardiologists and professors, the American Heart Association, Agence France-Presse and the British Heart Foundation.

Like, if that's what you want to believe, have at it, but let's not pretend like he hasn't already been heavily criticized for cherrypicking data and provide incomplete views.

I took the time to hear him out and what his opinions were. Wikipedia is always good sometimes.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I took the time to hear him out and what his opinions were. Wikipedia is always good sometimes.

Wikipedia is a good starting point. So is listening to a person's opinions. But when credible organizations who know what they're talking about take issue with his takes, it paints a picture to me.

 

[Here I Pageau Again]

The man has a whole section on his Wikipedia page titled "Public health campaigns and misinformation". He's been rebuffed by organizations including the UK National Health Service, fellow cardiologists and professors, the American Heart Association, Agence France-Presse and the British Heart Foundation.

Like, if that's what you want to believe, have at it, but let's not pretend like he hasn't already been heavily criticized for cherrypicking data and provide incomplete views.

He also wants to sell his "Malhotra method" to health. So let's not pretend there isn't financial benefit to promoting what he does. People critique the pharmaceutical companies for doing that and he's doing the same thing.

I actually think this is the same Dr that spoke about CRP and cardiac health and COVID vaccines.

 

[Stylizer1]

Wikipedia is a good starting point. So is listening to a person's opinions. But when credible organizations who know what they're talking about take issue with his takes, it paints a picture to me.

We've seen how trust worthy "credible" organizations can truly be.

 

[Stylizer1]

B.C. school teens showed improved grades and social skills after cellphone ban

When British Columbia school counsellor Tulani Pierce started noticing mental health trouble in some of her students last year, she said it gave her an idea:…

ottawasun.com

 

[Stylizer1]

 

[Stylizer1]

Sounds refreshing.