Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building | Born in a hurricane with a snake in both fists

[Ogrezilla]

My biggest concern with the D in terms of actual roster d-men is that both Cole and Hunwick are better on the left side.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Unfortunately I have no control over that.

No, neither does JR. But he does have control over having a 4th puck mover for situations like we're in right now.

 

[Ryder71]

Fixing the forward group goes a long way to helping the D and getting back to our game.

I mean I’d like to change Dumo for a bit better skater and puck mover but it’s not a priority or anything.

Like I said, upfront we have clear and definite areas that need addressed. The blue line is more about players needing to play close to their customary level.

 

[Ryder71]

My biggest concern with the D in terms of actual roster d-men is that both Cole and Hunwick are better on the left side.

I don't disagree with that premise, but in the scheme of things I think that's low on this teams priorities in terms of shoring up the roster. But I would expect JR to add a defensemen by the deadline. Last year Hainsey and Streit, so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Fixing the forward group goes a long way to helping the D and getting back to our game.

Very true. This team won back to back with 5-man defense. Not a star studded D-Core. Good to great teams in the league right now are doing the same. Vegas, NJD, Rangers to name a few.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I don't disagree with that premise, but in the scheme of things I think that's low on this teams priorities in terms of shoring up the roster. But I would expect JR to add a defensemen by the deadline. Last year Hainsey and Streit, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Me too. I think it should be done, but finding a number 7/8 should be a lot easier than a 3C or even a LW upgrade.

 

[PensandCaps]

The 2008 team that lost is the best pens team ever.

 

[Ogrezilla]

The 2008 team that lost is the best pens team ever.

give me 2016. The forwards are close, but 2016 Letang is head and shoulders better than anyone on that 2008 defense.

 

[Ryder71]

Me too. I think it should be done, but finding a number 7/8 should be a lot easier than a 3C or even a LW upgrade.

No argument there.

 

[Ryder71]

give me 2016.

1992 AINEC

11 straight wins, beating a Chicago team that won 11 straight coming into that series. 16-5 playoff record despite Lemieux getting axed by Graves and missing the rest of that series.

 

[Ogrezilla]

1992 AINEC

That's fair. I was 6 when we lifted that Cup.

 

[Ryder71]

That's fair. I was 6 when we lifted that Cup.

We have the NHL record for most consecutive playoff wins of 14, 11 at the end of the '92 cup run and the first three games in '93. Sadly and on paper the '93 team was probably more talented, won 17 in a row just before the playoffs. Burned em out. David Volek is an ass clown!

 

[PensandCaps]

give me 2016. The forwards are close, but 2016 Letang is head and shoulders better than anyone on that 2008 defense.

I think getting prime Malkin and Crosby easily offsets that. Also, Hossa>Kessel.

Staal down the middle.

Gonchar,Whitney,Gill,Orpik, Scuds and a young Letang is a pretty damm good Dcore.

And Fleury was a monster that year. Like the only time he ever showed why he was a #1OA pick

 

[Tom Hanks]

Like I said, upfront we have clear and definite areas that need addressed. The blue line is more about players needing to play close to their customary level.

Yeah most of us agree what we need or pretty close to it.

A 3C, LW for Geno/Phil and a new 4th line. The 4th line can be filled internally once the other trades push people down or even just a deadline trade for a 4th line LW (might be Hags if we don’t need the cap, likely we will though) to go with Sheahan and hopefully Simon.

I’m really warming to the idea of getting Kane for the 3rd line.

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Trade-Malkin-Kessel
Kane-Trade-Rust
Trade-Sheahan-Simon

We have the assests to do it. Depends on what’s available though.

 

[Ryder71]

Yeah most of us agree what we need or pretty close to it.

A 3C, LW for Geno/Phil and a new 4th line. The 4th line can be filled internally once the other trades push people down or even just a deadline trade for a 4th line LW (might be Hags ice we don’t need the cap, likely we will though) to go with Sheahan and hopefully Simon.

I’m really warming to the idea of getting Kane for the 3rd line.

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Trade-Malkin-Kessel
Kane-Trade-Rust
Trade-Sheahan-Simon

We have the assists to do it. Depends on what’s available though.

My theory would be that if you address 3C you move Sheahan down to fourth line pivot which instantly boosts that line. Add another LW and you completely transform the bottom six. And in doing so no one is playing more minutes than their talent level warrants.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think getting prime Malkin and Crosby easily offsets that. Also, Hossa>Kessel.

Staal down the middle.

Gonchar,Whitney,Gill,Orpik, Scuds and a young Letang is a pretty damm good Dcore.

And Fleury was a monster that year. Like the only time he ever showed why he was a #1OA pick

It's a close call, but I still like the 16 team.

 

[Ryder71]

I love all five cups, I am so blessed and thrilled that my favorite team in the world, in any sport, had two eras in which they were the gold standard. Love this team!

 

[PensandCaps]

So, when we three peat, where does the 2018 team rank?

 

[Ryder71]

So, when we three peat, where does the 2018 team rank?

None of your business!

 

[Tom Hanks]

I love all five cups, I am so blessed and thrilled that my favorite team in the world, in any sport, had two eras in which they were the gold standard. Love this team!

My Aussie Rules football team averages a cup every 4 years since I was born.

Recently similar to the Penguins too. In 2008 we had a couple of the best young forwards in the league but came up against an older very successful team and won. Then we had a spell of under achieving (injuries hurt us too) then threepeated 2013-2015

 

[PensandCaps]

Looking at the 92-93 team. I change my answer. They would smack all the cup teams. My god were they loaded.

 

[Ryder71]

My Aussie Rules football team averages a cup every 4 years since I was born.

Recently similar to the Penguins too. In 2008 we had a couple of the best young forwards in the league but came up against an older very successful team and won. Then we had a spell of under achieving (injuries hurt us too) then threepeated 2013-2015

Show off!

 

[Ryder71]

Looking at the 92-93 team. I change my answer. They would smack all the cup teams. My god were they loaded.

I got a divorce and it was less painful than that team losing. OUCH!

 

[Pengu]

Ya, that 93 loss was one of the biggest downers. Still the loss to Florida in 96 hurts me the most....

 

[mpp9]

Assuming JR has a deal lined up to deal Letang for the cap space and pieces to help us now and longterm with a replacement D.

Who’d move Guentzel+Maatta for EK? You lose Guentzel’s ELC but gain the best D-man in the league locked in for 2 more runs and open up the cap possibility of keeping him around for longer.