TLEH
Pronounced T-Lay
If we trade Seabrook, who do we have that can replace what he brings? Not even right away but in the future? Johns? He seems like hes ready to emerge but didn't he just get hurt?
You don't move top pairing defenseman unless you must.
Full stop.
Everyone should be okay with the idea of trading Seabrook.
I mentioned it in another thread, but the league is DEFINITELY becoming faster IMO. Soon to be gone are the days of the relatively immobile stay-at-home defensmen that simply patrolled and enforced the crease area. While Seabrook doesn't exactly fit that mold, he's definitely not the most fleet of foot and has definitely lost a step in recent years. Seabs has been abused quite a bit defensively this season and I don't expect that to get any better as he ages.
IMO the Hawks need to be exploring trade options for several reasons. One is the one mentioned above: while being a good offensive d-man I don't think he projects well defensively going forward. Two, is that his value will never be higher than it is right now and I think they could (potentially) get a good/great return. The third is that I don't think he is worth re-signing once his contract expires. For how good he currently is and how good he can be expected to be as the new contract goes forward, I think he will be a TERRIBLE value for all of those years. Especially with what the Hawks would have to match with what some idiot team would give on the open market.
This team needs to identify who the true core pieces are as they can ill-afford to misallocate resources going forward. The core at this moment should be Keith, Hammer, Toews, Kane, Saad, and TT. Everyone else is an expendable piece and should be expended if they don't provide value (production vs. expense). Seabrook simply isn't good/great enough, young enough, or provides enough value (going forward) to be in that discussion. If we can get some pieces now we jump on it. If not, we use him for the next year and plan for the replacement strategy when we let him walk. If the latter, hopefully some young guys have stepped up so that we have a ready-made, cheap, internal option.
Columbus needs a guy like Seabrook. I think they'd be afraid of him bolting after 1 season though. They seem to have issues with guys not wanting to play there. Who else could we potentially move Seabrook too? I would exclude Edmonton...we don't need to help them build around McDavid.
Good lord no...
How in gods name can you exclude Seabs from the core?
How can you ignore his role as a leader in the locker room over the years?
His track record for clutch playoff goals?
And say he's expendable!?!?
Thank god the organization has already made it known that they will do whatever it takes to make Seabrook and Saad part of their long term plans. 7 isn't going anywhere, rest assured. The idea of moving him is ludicrous. He's in his prime, coming off a great year, great playoff run....
Sharp, Crawford, Bickell, Oduya, Versteeg/Shaw/Kruger would ALL go before we ever came close to losing Seabs.
Plz stop the madness people.
Philly is always looking for defensemen to spend money on.
Philly is always looking for defensemen to spend money on.
Oh, and (ugh) Detroit.
To get off Seabrook... anyone have a problem with retaining 1M on Bickell? I'm ok with it. 2 years 1M won't make the difference.
Don't the Flyers have there own cap problems as well? Are they still suffering from that Pronger deal.
With a cap at $71 mil there is really no reason to panic
Move Bickell and Sharp
You can sign Saad for up to $6 mil, Kruger for $2.5
Fill in the the 15-20 with Nordstrom, McNeil,Johns Danualt Hartman and Panarin
and still have $3-4 mil for the last 2 spots
Seabrook isn't a concern for next year's cap. It's whether he will be able to fit after next year since he is a ufa.
If Stan doesn't think he will be able to be resigned then trading him this summer should be done. Of course, I would rather trade Crawford to keep Seabs.
Not only do they NOT trade Seabrook, but he'll wear Sharp's "A" next year
I don't know why people are content to punt next season which is what you are saying if you want the team to trade Seabrook.