Saginaw Spirit 2018-19 Season Thread

[TcNorth]

Why does it have to be on the same team? Their is no shortage of OA's and not all signed players are guaranteed to make the AHL or ECHL.

bcspragu said “Perfetti deal could bring in OA’s (plural). That is what a I was referring too. Unless you no of a way to trade Perfetti to two teams.

 

[Petes]

bcspragu said “Perfetti deal could bring in OA’s (plural). That is what a I was referring too. Unless you no of a way to trade Perfetti to two teams.

Well... considering you can only trade Perfetti for picks its gunna be real tough to deal him for OAs.

 

[TcNorth]

Thanks Petes.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Well... considering you can only trade Perfetti for picks its gunna be real tough to deal him for OAs.

But you could trade picks for OAs and then receive picks back from the same team......two deals, but really one deal

 

[Duke Guy]

Didn't an OHL team a few years ago receive heavy sanctions for draft manipulations?

 

[bcspragu]

Well... considering you can only trade Perfetti for picks its gunna be real tough to deal him for OAs.

A trade for picks and flipping those picks was implied.

 

[Finster8]

bcspragu said “Perfetti deal could bring in OA’s (plural). That is what a I was referring too. Unless you no of a way to trade Perfetti to two teams.

Of course their is no way to trade him to 2 teams. I can't speak for bcspragu but I am sure he meant the acquired picks from the Perfetti trade.I don't appreciate the backhanded insult it is ignorant.

 

[SaginawFan]

Good move for Bappert and his hockey career. Best of luck!

 

[Finster8]

Never really saw his full potential due to injury. All the best with your new team.

 

[swoopster]

He joins former Spirit player Tony Camara on that club.

 

[Finster8]

When is the earliest that Perfetti can be deemed defective or not reporting? How do we determine his worth 3-2nds + 3-3rds is close. Plus the 2nd rder we acquired before the trade would fetch us 2 excellent OA's.

 

[the dog]

When is the earliest that Perfetti can be deemed defective or not reporting? How do we determine his worth 3-2nds + 3-3rds is close. Plus the 2nd rder we acquired before the trade would fetch us 2 excellent OA's.

if he is not at training camp in august

 

[TcNorth]

If you get three-2nds and three 3rds, you should not get a defective 1st round pick!

 

[the dog]

If you get three-2nds and three 3rds, you should not get a defective 1st round pick!

you will get pick #6 plus reg 1st rd..also because he was a top 5 pick ..will receive
an additional pick at the end of the 2nd rd

 

[SaginawFan]

I would do nothing! If he doesn't report, good luck in your hockey career in NCAA.I am sure he will end up being a pro somewhere. But I would stop the "Lindros " arrogance and not give this kid what he wants just because Saginaw is not a high end hockey market!

I wonder if it's really him making this choice not to come or is it parents and hockey advisor! If so, fire advisor and maybe parents need a reality check too! Nice player, will succeed, but he is no McDavid or a franchise saviour!

I would not give in to a 15 year old kid! Saginaw is turning corners and he could play a part in it. Saginaw has tons of picks, we don't need more, hang on to him or trade his rights to a team not on his "list". Tough lesson to learn, but I wouldn't have the patience to deal with the Lindros type!

 

[Naz]

I would do nothing! If he doesn't report, good luck in your hockey career in NCAA.I am sure he will end up being a pro somewhere. But I would stop the "Lindros " arrogance and not give this kid what he wants just because Saginaw is not a high end hockey market!

I wonder if it's really him making this choice not to come or is it parents and hockey advisor! If so, fire advisor and maybe parents need a reality check too! Nice player, will succeed, but he is no McDavid or a franchise saviour!

I would not give in to a 15 year old kid! Saginaw is turning corners and he could play a part in it. Saginaw has tons of picks, we don't need more, hang on to him or trade his rights to a team not on his "list". Tough lesson to learn, but I wouldn't have the patience to deal with the Lindros type!

I hear you but I'm the long run not getting nothing hurts the team development. I think Branch could put a stop to this practice of players not reporting.
By still having the computation pick but not allowing the player to be traded and goes back into the draft the following year.
Hope it makes sense. Just my opinion

 

[dirty12]

The defect rule is good as is, imo. Saginaw could get 3(2nds & 3rds) plus the sixth pick next draft for selecting and trading Purfetti. That’s good value for drafting BPA. Peterborough could get 3(2nds & 3rds) plus fifth pick & another comp pick at end of 2nd round next season for drafting and trading Cuylle. That’s good value for drafting BPA.
If that rule was not in place, Peterborough and Saginaw would not have drafted those players; instead taking a lesser talent; then, London would gotten Stranges (#2 ranked) & Purfetti (#4? ranked) players with the #21 & #23 picks; and, Cuylle would have fallen to Windsor or Miss (further than he should have).

 

[TcNorth]

6 high draft picks plus a high top 5-6 pick for 1 player? I think that is too much.

 

[dirty12]

6 high draft picks plus a high top 5-6 pick for 1 player? I think that is too much.

It was ok for Flint when selecting McLoed. It’s fair, imo. I think it was fair to Kingston (Domi), to OS (Mete), to Niagara (Brown), to Miss (Nizhnikov) .... if teams cannot get BPA, they should be afforded best value for that pick. None of those teams have won an OHL final; so, I don’t think the compensation has been (too much).

 

[Savard18]

It was ok for Flint when selecting McLoed. It’s fair, imo. I think it was fair to Kingston (Domi), to OS (Mete), to Niagara (Brown), to Miss (Nizhnikov) .... if teams cannot get BPA, they should be afforded best value for that pick. None of those teams have won an OHL final; so, I don’t think the compensation has been (too much).

Right. All the OHL is doing is giving the comp pick and allowing the player to be traded. If a GM/GM's decide that said player is worth 3 2nd's and 3 3rd's that's on the GM's.

 

[TcNorth]

It was ok for Flint when selecting McLoed. It’s fair, imo. I think it was fair to Kingston (Domi), to OS (Mete), to Niagara (Brown), to Miss (Nizhnikov) .... if teams cannot get BPA, they should be afforded best value for that pick. None of those teams have won an OHL final; so, I don’t think the compensation has been (too much).

Disagree. Flint should not have received two top 5 picks either IMO.

 

[coolwood]

Saginaw is in cohots with Generals on this pick
Generals will send Robinson (moms family is from the area) to Sag with 2 active players + 2 future draft picks

Wait until 1st week of Sept no need to fret over this now its all in the works

You can only trade picks for defective players

 

[Finster8]

Time will tell I appreciate the input from everyone.

 

[Savard18]

Disagree. Flint should not have received two top 5 picks either IMO.

They didn't. They picked McLeod 3rd overall in 2015. They received the 5th overall pick in 2016 as compensation for being declared defective. The 3rd overall pick that Branch took away was Flint's normal first round pick.

 

[Petes]

Saginaw is in cohots with Generals on this pick
Generals will send Robinson (moms family is from the area) to Sag with 2 active players + 2 future draft picks

Wait until 1st week of Sept no need to fret over this now its all in the works

You need new sources.

1. Robinson cant be traded.
2. Perfetti can only be dealt for picks.