Friedman: Sabres preparing for An Additional Top Ten Pick

[Dr Quincy]

Think you missed the point, which was that people said these are the players that are non-starters. In hindsight none of the players mentioned could even sniff the value of ROR.

Point being just because you state someone to be a blue chipper that will not be involved there is a great chance that the said player will not pan out as expected.

Just going to talk about your last paragraph.

Sure, absolutely no doubt. No argument. People overrate prospects here. We all do it.

At the same time...my point being: Just because you say a team should give up it's blue chip prospects for your player... as we've seen by ROR... you often don't have to do it to get the player.

I mean, we actually do know what ROR's market value was based on what BUF accepted.

 

[terranraida]

We did it! 100 pages of back to back to back nonsense!

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Yes a 30 goal 60pt player who actually knows what the defensive zone looks like and a top pairing D are better than Reinhart

You've literally never watched him play.

 

[dracom]

He's not jack eichel though

Dude we know. You don’t have to keep reminding everyone

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

We did it! 100 pages of back to back to back nonsense!

And you posted the most. Contracts for turning this place to a garbage pile -- you sound really proud.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I did that for ROR recently and the "untouchables" back then were

Ryan Poehling
Montreal's 3rd (Jesperi Kotkaniemi)
Jake Bean
Noah Hanifin
Nolan Patrick
Travis Konecny
Robert Thomas
Vince Dunn
Jordan Kyrou

This is great

 

[Beerz]

Just going to talk about your last paragraph.

Sure, absolutely no doubt. No argument. People overrate prospects here. We all do it.

At the same time...my point being: Just because you say a team should give up it's blue chip prospects for your player... as we've seen by ROR... you often don't have to do it to get the player.

I mean, we actually do know what ROR's market value was based on what BUF accepted.

I don't think anyone believes that was RORs market value based on a GMs stupid decision.
The Sabres painted themselves into a corner with ROR and were stubborn

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

This is great

But it’s also not scientific in any way… nor is the list remotely close to what people are claiming untouchable for eichel

 

[terranraida]

I don't think anyone believes that was RORs market value based on a GMs stupid decision.
The Sabres painted themselves into a corner with ROR and were stubborn

Damn, where does this sound familiar....

 

[Dr Quincy]

I don't think anyone believes that was RORs market value based on a GMs stupid decision.
The Sabres painted themselves into a corner with ROR and were stubborn

That's what market value is.

 

[terranraida]

Your buddy said I posted most of the 2400 replies to this dumb thread but I'm 90% sure it's just you posting gifs...

 

[Flash20]

That's what market value is.

You do understand the Bonus was a big part why we didn't land those players .

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

I've said on these boards and elsewhere that Eichel to LA makes good sense for Buffalo. They'd be lucky to Turcotte and Vlardi plus a nice D man and the top 10 pick. But if you're LA, maybe you shoot for a cheaper, healthier star center with playoff pedigree to complement your team now AND later.

 

[Dr Quincy]

You do understand the Bonus was a big part why we didn't land those players .

Yes.

To quote a genius: That's what market value is.

Hence why trading 2 or 3 ELC bluechippers and a top 3 pick for an injured player with a $10m contract is NOT market value.

Glad we finally can agree 100 pages in.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Ok you don't want a franchise center I got it .

We've already established that you can get perfectly good Conn Smythe/Selke Caliber 1B for the price of a guy who retires rather than play for you, another guy you wished retired, a middle 6 F "prospect" and a late conditional 1st.

My momma taught me to never pay retail when you can buy wholesale.

 

[Flash20]

We've already established that you can get perfectly good Conn Smythe/Selke Caliber 1B for the price of a guy who retires rather than play for you, another guy you wished retired, a middle 6 F "prospect" and a late conditional 1st.

My momma taught me to never pay retail when you can buy wholesale.

Ok go find one

 

[Dr Quincy]

Ok go find one

BTW what exactly is your definition of a "franchise C"?

 

[terranraida]

BTW what exactly is your definition of a "franchise C"?

Apparently it's a hyped up good center who's never willed his team to even a wildcard playoff spot.

 

[Flash20]

BTW what exactly is your definition of a "franchise C"?

Bergeron, Crosby, Eichel,McDavid ,MacKinnon, Matthews.Etc

Those are franchise centers

 

[Dr Quincy]

Bergeron, Crosby, Eichel,McDavid ,MacKinnon, Matthews.Etc

Those are franchise centers

Those are examples. Not a definition.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

Can you to take this to private chat? You're both being silly at this point.

 

[Selanne00008]

I think Jack gets traded AFTER the expansion draft but BEFORE the NHL draft.

The difference between the Sabres protecting Bjork and Idk, Thompson is so insignificant. Our last protected list is entirely gone and no longer on the Sabres.

However if you trade Jack to a team that already has super difficult decisions for the expansion draft, yet you want future picks and young talent that isn't eligible for the expansion protection list, then you really deter that team from trading for Jack, who you obviously protect before the expansion draft. Your just adding to a teams problems going into the expansion list they need to create.

So do the trade partner "a solid" and say sure, we'll hold Jack through expansion lists we all need provide, so we have to eat protecting him, and you can certainly work that into the negotiation on his value.

Some teams may have already said, "look GMKA, we want to make an offer that looks attractive, however having to protect Jack really screws us. So as long as Jack is still available Thursday before the real NFL draft, we'll sign on the dotted line for him".

Thoughts? How much does this help out a team like LA or Minny?

 

[enthusiast]

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