RW/LW Klim Kostin (2017, 31st, STL, traded to EDM)

[wings5]

Kostin has never impressed me when I saw him play, it's always been some lesser hyped players who stood out over him.

 

[Frk It]

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

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I think he would actually look great in TB. They already have Kucherov and Namestnikov and Sergachyov and Vsilievsky. Add Kostin and another Russian D(6th rounder Sosunov?) and they can have a Russian 5 like Detroit had in the past (plus a Russian goalie)!

 

[wings5]

I doubt he's good enough to do anything noteworthy in the AHL at 18. He'd still benefit from junior level games next year.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

PLEASE pick him Stevie.

 

[Maplebeasts]

The AHL could be a good place for him to continue his development. Although there have been a lot of prospects that have grown a ton in Russia, Kostin will need a lot of ice-time to continue his growth which is hard for young players to come by in Russia. Very enticing tool set and I expect him to be a steal if he goes where projected.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

The AHL could be a good place for him to continue his development. Although there have been a lot of prospects that have grown a ton in Russia, Kostin will need a lot of ice-time to continue his growth which is hard for young players to come by in Russia. Very enticing tool set and I expect him to be a steal if he goes where projected.

You mean to Tam?

 

[Maplebeasts]

You mean to Tam?

If that's where he ends up, yes.

 

[KyGuy9]

I got a strong feeling Vegas may pick him up with one of either 12 or 15. Building a super Russian team.

 

[Caser]

 

[Juxtaposer]

It's good that he'll play in the AHL. That'll help his draft stock.

 

[Smif]

Why does ISS list him as a centre?

 

[Caser]

Why does ISS list him as a centre?

Because he is big - that automatically makes him a centre. Actually not only ISS, but, for example, CSS too, seen him listed as C in some other rankings as well. No idea where they could possibly see him playing at C, he is a natural RW, who can play LW too.

 

[93LEAFS]

Why does ISS list him as a centre?

Because they've been irrelevant since Stuart Hyman bought them to get his kid ranked.

 

[malkinfan]

I don't like the thought of him in the AHL at 18 and to think he has a shot at the NHL after missing almost full year of hockey is nuts. VHL is a great place for him, he'll get an opportunity to be a leader and play big minutes there. In the AHL, I fear he may be limited to 3rd line duties, where his offensive game doesn't develop as much as it could overseas. I'm skeptical.

 

[Rschmitz]

Question, do overseas players playing in the AHL have those seasons counted against their Entry level contract?

 

[wings5]

I don't like the thought of him in the AHL at 18 and to think he has a shot at the NHL after missing almost full year of hockey is nuts. VHL is a great place for him, he'll get an opportunity to be a leader and play big minutes there. In the AHL, I fear he may be limited to 3rd line duties, where his offensive game doesn't develop as much as it could overseas. I'm skeptical.

I know, kid scored like one goal last year, he needs to see himself find the back of the net consistently, never been a ppg player in junior yet.

 

[93LEAFS]

Question, do overseas players playing in the AHL have those seasons counted against their Entry level contract?

No, not unless they play over 10 NHL games. The first 2 years count as slide, as they would with any other prospect. See William Nylander.

 

[boredmale]

Question, do overseas players playing in the AHL have those seasons counted against their Entry level contract?

No. Anybody who is under 20 who plays in the AHL for a season(say like Nylander) and not the AHL doesn't get punished by having 1 year of the ELC go against them. it's basically one of the reason the Leafs really didn't call up Nylander in 2015/16 for more then like 10 games because if he did play that many one year of his ELC would take effect.

It should also be noted for late born players drafted(Sept 16-Dec 31) who go to the AHL after playing 1 more season of junior, that one year of the ELC gets deferred till they start the season as a 20 year old. Ryan Pulock and Anthony Mantha for instance both were late born players who played in the AHL and didn't have their first season count against the 3 year ELC

 

[93LEAFS]

No. Anybody who is under 20 who plays in the AHL for a season(say like Nylander) and not the AHL doesn't get punished by having 1 year of the ELC go against them. it's basically one of the reason the Leafs really didn't call up Nylander in 2015/16 for more then like 10 games because if he did play that many one year of his ELC would take effect.

It should also be noted for late born players drafted(Sept 16-Dec 31) who go to the AHL after playing 1 more season of junior, that one year of the ELC gets deferred till they start the season as a 20 year old. Ryan Pulock and Anthony Mantha for instance both were late born players who played in the AHL and didn't have their first season count against the 3 year ELC

We did that with Kapanen. Nylander we gave 22 games. It cost us an ELC year but didn't count as a year accrued towards unrestricted free agency.

 

[boredmale]

We did that with Kapanen. Nylander we gave 22 games. It cost us an ELC year but didn't count as a year accrued towards unrestricted free agency.

For some reason I thought they played him 9 games then magically sent him down. lol

 

[mouser]

No. Anybody who is under 20 who plays in the AHL for a season(say like Nylander) and not the AHL doesn't get punished by having 1 year of the ELC go against them. it's basically one of the reason the Leafs really didn't call up Nylander in 2015/16 for more then like 10 games because if he did play that many one year of his ELC would take effect.

It should also be noted for late born players drafted(Sept 16-Dec 31) who go to the AHL after playing 1 more season of junior, that one year of the ELC gets deferred till they start the season as a 20 year old. Ryan Pulock and Anthony Mantha for instance both were late born players who played in the AHL and didn't have their first season count against the 3 year ELC

Clarifications:

- Any player who signs at Age 18 or 19 and hasn't burned a year on their ELC yet is eligible to slide so long as they don't play 10+ NHL games. Doesn't matter whether the player is in juniors or the AHL. For example Daniel Sprong played 18 games for Pitt as an 18 year old. So he is not eligible to slide in his Age 19 season even though he was returned to the QMJHL.

- Late birthdays can only slide if they're signed at Age 18 (before the end of their draft calendar year). They can then slide twice, e.g. Mantha. If a late birthday player is signed the year after their draft they cannot slide at all.

 

[wings5]

If his NHL team tells him it would be best to go to the CHL, would he refuse?

 

[Atas2000]

If his NHL team tells him it would be best to go to the CHL, would he refuse?

He is not that smart.

 

[These Are The Days]

Whelp there goes his chances with the Lightning. We have this strange infatuation with making our prospects playing at least 4 years between junior and AHL.