Speculation: Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2018-19 - Part V

[Bood12]

hopefully Lou is smart enough to stay away from Duchene, obviously a cancer in the locker room

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Except Garth Snow, he would just kick the tires and in the end he kicked the tires and traded for the least productive guy on the market, he would be looking for the 2019 model of Wagner at the deadline

True. And whoever came back from an injury would be considered the “deadline acquisition.”

 

[majormet]

He had 3 more years left at 8.25 million. I don’t think it’s worth trading for

Is he in a big decline right now or has no solid linemates, wouldn't he be great with Eberle and Lee? And eventually for future young guys like Bellows, MDC and Wahlstrom, I would think Hickey would find his way in such a trade to ease some salary. Beau, Aho, HIckey and a 2nd. I feel Beau is going to be a bust

 

[SI]

He had 3 more years left at 8.25 million. I don’t think it’s worth trading for

He absolutely is!
And he has 2 more seasons after this one.

2y /16 aav for Getzlaf or 5/5.5 for Nelson?

 

[Lame Lambert]

hopefully Lou is smart enough to stay away from Duchene, obviously a cancer in the locker room

Yeah you would know from all of the time you spend in an NHL locker room. I gues Ho-sang is a locker room cancer too?

 

[majormet]

True. And whoever came back from an injury would be considered the “deadline acquisition.”

ah yes way too often that was the deadline spark, we get XXXX back in 9 days... and that is as good as a trade...

Stone or Skinner would be ideal to getting to Tampa in the Eastern Finals
Duchene, Getzlaf, Nyquist, Dzingel, Toffoli, Zuccarello, would help get us a first round win

 

[Bood12]

Yeah you would know from all of the time you spend in an NHL locker room. I gues Ho-sang is a locker room cancer too?

Isles were winning when Ho-Sang was here

 

[majormet]

He absolutely is!
And he has 2 more seasons after this one.

2y /16 aav for Getzlaf or 5/5.5 for Nelson?

I'd take them both, it would be like having Getzlaf and Kesler lol... Nelson is improving 5 games for every game he played, one of the fastest transformations I have seen in this game

And Getzlaf would expire when it is time to sign the younger guys... resigning Nelson, Lehner, Lee and Eberle while unloading Hickey is probably doable

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Isles were winning when Ho-Sang was here

Yeah but Bridgeport’s been losing since he’s Ben there.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Isles were winning when Ho-Sang was here

If one player is the difference between big winning streaks and big losing streaks then your team is built like shit.

 

[Bood12]

Yeah but Bridgeport’s been losing since he’s Ben there.

well Ho-Sang is not a 9 Million+ a year player who you have to give up major assets for an is essentially going to be the face of your team(along with Barzal)

 

[beach]

Is Ryan Getzlaf's contract too bad or has he declined a bit to be worth trading for.?

Decline-d

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Yeah but every GM says this. This is a typical, canned answer.

I liked what I heard, careful to not disrupt chemistry, perfectly happy with the roster he has currently, coaches have done a great job, basically no sign of desperation or need to make a move. If Lou was a poker player, he would give Daniel Negrano a run for his money. To me, I would not be surprised in a surgical deal before the TDL. Nothing major, just an add to give the Isles a little more punch.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

I liked what I heard, careful to not disrupt chemistry, perfectly happy with the roster he has currently, coaches have done a great job, basically no sign of desperation or need to make a move. If Lou was a poker player, he would give Daniel Negrano a run for his money. To me, I would not be surprised in a surgical deal before the TDL. Nothing major, just an add to give the Isles a little more punch.

Gotcha. To be fair I didn’t listen to the entire interview, just read that one quote.

 

[12Dog]

Isles were winning when Ho-Sang was here

Winning without him too

 

[IslandersFan17]

Winning without him too

Yet, many want to trade for players who we are winning without as well. Would almost be like adding talent doesnt matter cause we are winning.

 

[Thrasymachus]

hopefully Lou is smart enough to stay away from Duchene, obviously a cancer in the locker room

Please, tell us more...

 

[19 in a row]

deals for Duchene -

2019 #1, Kiefer Bellows, Mitchell Vande Sompel
** conditional 2nd in 2020 if Duchene resigns (it bumps up to a 1st if Isles resign and win cup this season)

or

Brock Nelson (immediately flipped), 2019 #1, Bellows
** conditional 2nd in 2020 if Duchene resigns (it bumps up to a 1st if Isles resign and win cup this season)

Am I missing something? These two options look identical except one has Vande Sompel and the other Brock Nelson. I would hope that we don't consider moving Nelson for anything with less value than a late first or early second. The Nelson option then would be potentially equal to 3 firsts plus Bellows if we sign Duchene or 2 firsts, a second, and bellows as a rental only. I would love to have Duchene if Panarin or Stone are not an option, but that would be huge overpayment, and a pass for me if that is the price. Too much of a cost to upgrade Nelson to Duchene. We would still need another top 6 likely. The other option with a 1st, Bellows, Vande Sompel and a conditional 2nd which could be a first makes, is something I might consider. We have a lot of depth at D still coming in Aho, Dobson and Wilde with guys already signed.

 

[Bood12]

Please, tell us more...

I just go by what I see, a player who requests a trade is always a bad player to have around if you ask me, and then he gets traded and that team who traded him does better without him and his new team does worse? we really want a guy like that around this team who seems to be doing good?

 

[PROMputt]

If LL can acquire one of the top FA w/o giving up any of Dobson, Walstrom, Wilde, or Bellows I will be impressed.

 

[CBG]

Lets just go get Duchene and then also go get Kovalchuk who I think won't co$t us a lot and call it a day ! How would that look > I can dream can't I ?

 

[BelovedIsles]

There’s a small window in this league to win. NYI finds themselves in a unique position, sitting 3rd in the league w potential to do some damage in the east.

Who says the cards will fall the same way next season? Winning is not linear, nor is development; they very well may be a WC contender next year, but not divisional crown.

Ebbs and flows, every year is different. Maybe Lehner doesn’t build on his renaissance season, maybe Greiss regresses, maybe they don’t execute the system as efficiently, maybe they have another lackluster free agent outing. I’m not saying any if the aforementioned will occur.

What I am saying is Lou should *reasonably* Carpe Diem by augmenting this team now for a run up the east. Disclaimer, I’m not advocating to ship off Dobson et al for a rental. This team deserves a reward for (to this point) a stellar year.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Also curious...What happens if the Isles land Duchene giving up 3 good assets, but then this summer none of Lehner, Nelson, Eberle, Lee, or Duchene resign?

What happens if the Isles make a trade... AND THEN EVERYTHING POSSIBLE BAD HAPPENS EVER?!? WHAT IF THEN!?

 

[periferal]

Believe it or not this tells me more than not a move will be made. Lou is very good at keeping his cards close to his chest.

What would you think if he said, "I've spoken with a few teams and it's likely we make a deal before the deadline"?

 

[PK Cronin]

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