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He's talking about Joakim NygardI tried to look this guy up but only got the Joakim Ryan from San Jose.
There has to be some stats on this guy somewhere. Anyone out there can find a link that would be great.
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I tried to look this guy up but only got the Joakim Ryan from San Jose.
There has to be some stats on this guy somewhere. Anyone out there can find a link that would be great.
its that Nygard guy not Ryan...Jimmy is crazy
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Narrowing zone exits down to passing doesn't really make sense. The goal is to get it out with control and Nurse is significantly better at it.
And it's used to discredit Russell for good reason. He's a high volume, horrible controlled exit defenseman.
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Another gem from Matty
Is it me or does he have an extremely punchable face, looking at his stupid smile pisses me off.
Doesn't even know what player we might sign, this guy is so embarrassing.
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That bastard
I should have figured that out. I need my morning coffee dammit.
I'm just a little surprised Matty didn't comment on the Oilers possibly signing Dwight Yoakam.
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You mean the same period where they lost their actual #1D man?
If you want to know why the Oilers have struggled for the last two seasons, having Kris Russell playing a feature role in the top 4 is a pretty succinct explanation.
Team that can't move the puck loses badly without both Klefbom and Sekera. News @ 11.
If Sekera comes back and can play top 4 minutes next season, i reckon this is a playoff team even with minimal roster changes (assuming we get league average goaltending anyway).
No, the six game stretch in late December when the team was poised to hit the 20-win mark at the earliest date since the '85 season. They lost six straight games without either defenseman and headed into the new year at 0.500. Essentially killed the playoff hopes.
Kris Russell played a 'feature role' in the top four in 16/17. Didn't see much of a problem then. People need to realize that defense is something an entire team is responsible for. Blaming an individual for a team's failure just suggests obvious bias.
Kris Russell playing a feature role in 16/17 was a huge problem then. I said as much that summer, even went so far as to say the defense as it was constructed was more likely to see the Oilers out of the playoffs than contending when everyone was riding the high.
Only by virtue of that group being insanely healthy were they good enough. Sekera babysitting Russell in maybe his best all-around NHL season ever was another huge part of why it worked.
It isn't his fault, though. He's just one of many miscast players on the roster. He's just the glaring problem on D.
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The Oilers missing the playoffs wasn't about who we had on defense. It was about who we didn't have.
Kris Russell is what he is. A player who gives you minutes in the instance a team doesn't have the depth to cover them. The Oilers' defense has had a significant need at that position for some time. The moment someone pushes him out of that role, he'll likely move on to another organization and be utilized the way he has been in multiple other organizations.
In the meantime, suggesting he is a primary reason for a team's failures is absolute non-sense.
Yes, we didn't have a fourth actual top-4 defenseman or any injury coverage for Andrej Sekera.
He's utilized here the same way Calgary utilized him to their own detriment. In a top-4 role, causing massive possession loss with a partner that makes too many mistakes to spend that much time in his own zone.
He's NOT the primary reason for the teams failure. He is a bad mix for this defense, misused in the top-4 and too expensive for this cap situation. Which is why I think he's the clear problem on D right now.
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No he didnt. Sekera dragged him around the ice and was the only reason Russell looked like a top 4 D. No surprise than when Sekera was out, Russell imploded. Same thing happened to Benning. Only difference, Benning is a young D and doesnt make 4 mil
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Yup they did. However, you can find these stop gap D for less than 4 mil per year. A 4 mil D should be net positive in the top 4. At very best, Russell is net neutral (very rarely), most times hes a net negative
Is nothing about Russell. Hes a fine bottom pairing D. But like you allude to, we need the right D in the right spot. So we need an actual top 4 D in the top 4. And Im not paying 4 mil to a bottom pairing D
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Agree with alot of this. However, like Schultz, I think Nurse is handicapped due his spot in the line up. Schultz was played to high, Nurse is played with a struggling partner
I agree though that hes not a 6mil D and Klefbom is a better option. I prefer to keep both in the end
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Looks like all speed and no hands....gets assists but does not put the puck in the net very often.
If these players are so easily found for 'under $4m' why haven't they found them in over a decade? The problem with gauging what a defenseman brings to the table is managing your expectations. I can look at Kris Russell and see the flaws. What I also understand is what happens when a lesser player is cast into his role.
The 'problem' isn't that Kris Russell is an Edmonton Oiler. It's that the Oilers aren't confident that they have the ability to replace the minutes he's consistently provided for them over the previous three seasons.
Two years in a row we've seen significant injuries limit the availability of Andrej Sekera and Oscar Klefbom. If I'm playing the odds...
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I did! it helped that he was paired with a vastly superior D man. We've seen what happens without that cover.
Some individuals are a bigger part of the problem than others.
What happens in those minutes is kinda important. When Russell is on the ice, the Oilers get consistently outshot, outchanced and frequently outscored. You can't just brush that off.
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