Bryanbryoil
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- Sep 13, 2004
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For anyone who thinks Strome was so valuable and Spooner was horrible, here are their gps, goals, assists, and points. Can't you tell which is which? Which one of these players are you so mad is gone? And so impairitive to the teams success?
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Spooner's stat line last season
52-3-6-9
Strome's stat line last season
81-19-16-35
Spooner's stat line last season
52-3-6-9
Strome's stat line last season
81-19-16-35
Strome also ha better defensive stats. Still a bad trade.
Strome bought into playing more defensively responsible hockey. He was fairly snake bitten but was at the very least treading water. The trade was salvaged to a degree by moving Spooner for Gagner, but there is no way to hide the fact that the original trade was a big negative for the Oilers. He was also playing well on the pk something Spooner did not do at all.For anyone who thinks Strome was so valuable and Spooner was horrible, here are their gps, goals, assists, and points. Can't you tell which is which? Which one of these players are you so mad is gone? And so impairitive to the teams success?
18-1-1-2[TBODY] [/TBODY]
25-2-1-3
Strome bought into playing more defensively responsible hockey. He was fairly snake bitten but was at the very least treading water. The trade was salvaged to a degree by moving Spooner for Gagner, but there is no way to hide the fact that the original trade was a big negative for the Oilers. He was also playing well on the pk something Spooner did not do at all.
Yep. Strome trade was bad. He was a kid in his mid twenties who was buying into playing more defensive hockey and was bound for a spike in offense like he saw in NY.
That being said, there's enough cap available to sign a guy like Sheahan this summer, who's probably better suited for the role. Also, bringing Gagner back seems like it a cheap way to help in the depth scoring department moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised to see him accept a multi-year deal here on a favorable cap hit beyond this season.
I don't really agree with this per se. He had a plan that was built around prospect development and building from within. And for the most part he followed it. The problem with that plan is that it doesn't necessarily ensure that you remain employed.The Strome trade really showed Chiarelli had no plan whatsoever. And I say this as someone who was fine with the trade initially because I thought Spooner would provide more offense. He traded his 3C without consulting McLellan and then hired a defensive-minded head coach four days later.
Holland has done a great job with short, cheap contracts this summer. He's allowing himself some flexibility in the future that Chiarelli couldn't because of stupid signings.
You're right, I will give him credit for improving the drafting and prospect development. But at the same time he also thought JP and Yamamoto could step in right away and be everyday NHLers when it they clearly weren't ready and needed time in the minors. I like that Holland has signed cheap bottom sixers to play while the kids stay down on the Condors. If he can add a legitimate 3C before the season starts I'll be pretty happy.I don't really agree with this per se. He had a plan that was built around prospect development and building from within. And for the most part he followed it. The problem with that plan is that it doesn't necessarily ensure that you remain employed.
That’s a no from me dogHow about Ben Hutton at 2 million?
With all due respect to Gagner, he is not a player that I'd want to give a multi year commitment to. 1 year deal at a much lower cap hit I could maybe see. This is a guy that was in the AHL prior to coming here and we'll need to see what he can do over a full NHL season before making any offers to keep him IMO.
There is levels and gradients of suck, Strome was snake bitten offensively, but was treading water fairly effectively at 5 on 5 cause he was playing well enough defensively. Spooner played at a level below a replacement level player, basically every veteran AHL player we called up handily outplayed him. Gagner provided some offense as a specialist, but probably not quite enough to be deserving of a spot given the other shortcomings in his game, but it was within the general range.Strome sucked, Spooner sucked and Gagner sucked after a hot start to his return. It was all varying levels of suck but none of these 3 guys were contributing much to the club. The reality is that Gagner played the best hockey of the 3 here in Edmonton last season. IIRC I said that we should've walked from Strome instead of giving him his QO, that seems like it would've been the best play except for the fact that Chia would've used that $3 million on someone that was likely even worse.
Strome did well in NY but odds are that even Rieder would've scored a goal on another club last season. What matters is what they did while here and 2 points in 18 games is beyond pathetic.
Lol an “analyst” on NHL network gave Holland an F- for his moves this summer. Is an F- even real lmaoThe Strome trade really showed Chiarelli had no plan whatsoever. And I say this as someone who was fine with the trade initially because I thought Spooner would provide more offense. He traded his 3C without consulting McLellan and then hired a defensive-minded head coach four days later.
Holland has done a great job with short, cheap contracts this summer. He's allowing himself some flexibility in the future that Chiarelli didn't have because of stupid signings.