Prospect Info: Round 2, Pick 48, Carter Hart, G, Everett (WHL)

[Striiker]

Not this guy. Its going to take him.some time. Even when he finally makes the NHL the idea that he will come right in and carry the load for a contending team is probably wishful thinking. All the more reason to add a decent goalie and to not buy into the idea that Elliott/Neuvirth are/were just place holders for Hart.

There were people calling Patrick a bust a few weeks in to last season. Some people are just dumb.

 

[The Madrigal]

There were people calling Patrick a bust a few weeks in to last season. Some people are just dumb.

You are more than welcome to search, I wasnt one of those guys.

 

[Striiker]

You are more than welcome to search, I wasnt one of those guys.

Wasn't implying that you were. I'm just saying that there's no such thing as "too early to complain" about a prospect to some people.

People should be smart and realize that Hart could take some time, but there will always be some who are impatient.

 

[pit]

I’m gonna make a bold prediction and say that Neuvirths new training makes a difference and he doesn’t have a major injury all year (nothing that keeps him out for more than a week at a time).

I note that this is one prediction that you aren't wagering major organs on.

 

[Striiker]

I note that this is one prediction that you aren't wagering major organs on.

Yeah, I only bet those when I'm like >90% sure.

This one... not so much...

 

[deadhead]

Lyon has a really small NHL sample size, but I think he did enough to avoid being put on waivers In October.

Unless he's bad at training camp.

But he has a nice AHL PO sample size, and from what I've looked at, AHL PO translates better to the NHL than AHL regular season.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

There were people calling Patrick a bust a few weeks in to last season. Some people are just dumb.

I don't recall that whatsoever.

 

[tucson83]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

 

[Rebels57]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

Incorrect.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Damn dude, I just realized that he had more shutouts than losses this season. Maybe that isn't as impressive as I think, but has that ever happened before for a starter?

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

Eh, if he is truly an elite goalie it won't have that type of impact. An elite goalie can make up for bad defense (and vice versa). Obviously, he may not be a Vezina-type goalie every year with a shitty defense, but if he is as good as we hope he will still be good enough. If the defense improves and he is as good as we think, the sky is the limit.

 

[deadhead]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

Wrong. This defense is just fine:

Corsica,
xGA/60, (5x5) Flyers were 7th in the NHL
xGA/60, (PK) Flyers were 4th in the NHL
So that "shoddy" defense isn't giving up a lot of good shots.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Wrong. This defense is just fine:

Corsica,
xGA/60, (5x5) Flyers were 7th in the NHL
xGA/60, (PK) Flyers were 4th in the NHL
So that "shoddy" defense isn't giving up a lot of good shots.

The goaltenders certainly gave up an unbelievable number of horribly weak goals.

 

[Adtar02]

I don't recall that whatsoever.

there were plenty. Most non flyer fans but some flyer fans as well

 

[David St Hubbins]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

They already got better when Hextall said he isnt bringing Manning back.

 

[Curufinwe]

Wrong. This defense is just fine:

Corsica,
xGA/60, (5x5) Flyers were 7th in the NHL
xGA/60, (PK) Flyers were 4th in the NHL
So that "shoddy" defense isn't giving up a lot of good shots.

Go watch the 54 PK goals conceded by the Flyers in 17-18, starting with opening night against San Jose where Weise fails miserably on a clearing attempt, and a Shark skates unopposed into the top of the circle and picks the corner while another Shark screens the goalie. The defense was downright laughable and Elliott had zero chance to make a save.

Philadelphia Flyers Schedule

 

[1865]

i want carter hart to succeed but if he plays behind this defense, it's going to be a problem. if hextall keeps the two picks and god forgid morin stays healthy, he should use them both on defensemen because we are still weak at that position. provy, sanaheim, ghost are good players but they need more to get better.

In Provo, Ghost and Sanheim we have 3/4 of our top four locked up for years now. We need the other three, and Myers, Hagg, Freidman and the Europeans will probably cover that.

 

[Doodootheclown]

Some decent quotes from Hart and his goalie coach and sports psycologist

 

[Rebels57]

Some decent quotes from Hart and his goalie coach and sports psycologist

Future HOFer

 

[NicolasAubeKubel]

Can’t wait

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Carey Price didnt break .920 until his 4th season. also that 4th year he broke under 2.50 GAA for the first time.
young goalies usually take some time to start playing up to their potential. Sure he could come in right away and perform at a high level right from the start. I am keeping expectations low for him his first couple of NHL seasons anyway.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Yeah, I only bet those when I'm like >90% sure.

This one... not so much...

Is stubborn an organ? In that case...dibs

 

[Lindberg]

Probably the biggest question is what do the Flyers heading into the season. Carter Hart should be a good goalie but it'll probably take him a while to get there.

 

[Striiker]

Is stubborn an organ? In that case...dibs

You want my stubbornness?

Careful man, it takes decades of practice to be this stubborn... you can’t just go from 0 to 100 and expect your body to hold together.

 

[bobbythebrain]

You want my stubbornness?

Careful man, it takes decades of practice to be this stubborn... you can’t just go from 0 to 100 and expect your body to hold together.