Prospect Info: Round 1, 7th overall: Matvei Michkov, RW, SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

[DancingPanther]

"He's gotta be better"

"In the KHL, there's lots of looping and swinging, and speed. I already know a couple of things that we're going to have to work on with Michkov to get him ready to play the North American style of game" - Armstrong



"[Lyksell] wants to play a possession game and turn back with the puck at times. It was a habit that he had to break" - Flahr

 

[iceman42]

Plus the inevitable "cheesesteak" weight gain.

Turn Michkov to Michkow

 

[Kermit the Prog]

Turn Michkov to Michkow

West German BMW is licking its chops to get another Mike Richards-level woodenness commercial, albeit in a thick Russian accent.

 

[04hockey]

torts won't be back, he torched his own future with the whole "Coots" DRAMA

 

[mr4tno]

I feel like even the Flyers wouldn't be stupid enough to let Torts do his thing to Michkov.

I do not know they have done some pretty stupid things over the years....

• Nick D. 4 yrs NMC
• Jody Shelley 2 year deal because he once scored two goals in a game against us (I believe his only 2 that year)
• The ghost/TDA debacles - how many assets were wasted in those deals
• RR trade and re-up
• Andy Mac trade ad re-up
• Patrick Sharp
• Giving Bryz an infinity contract with bob in the wings
• Dave Brown in charge of player development/evaluation
• KJ as POHO
• wasting a multitude of drafts picks on goons

 

[BernieParent]

I feel like even the Flyers wouldn't be stupid enough to let Torts do his thing to Michkov.

The "let" word in this sentence is the paperest of tigers.

 

[flyersnorth]

• The ghost/TDA debacles - how many assets were wasted in those deals
• RR trade and re-up

Of all the recent-ish moves, this is the one that annoys me the most.

The Flyers would have been better off keeping Ghost in every possible way. Assets, talent level, contribution and play on ice, contracts and money wasted.

OUT
Ghost,
1st,
2nd
2nd
3rd
4th
7th
Hagg

IN
Ristolainen
DeAngelo

Such a ridiculous set of moves.

 

[TheKingPin]

Quite honestly, that is a horrible idea. Not only do they have zero cap space, FA prices will further saddle this team for the next several years with replacement level players.

Of course the cap is always the other side of UFA. I am almost always against that too. But if we are assuming Michkov is 100+ pt player and starts this season then he is in for 10+ million in 3 years. And that + is likely real and a few more million.

Who would you consider a true 1C that could be had?

No idea of a real target tbh. But if TK gets you one either through the draft this year or next or a player or prospect you need to do it. It’s a no brainer for a young 1C but even a couple of 1sts is a must.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Of course the cap is always the other side of UFA. I am almost always against that too. But if we are assuming Michkov is 100+ pt player and starts this season then he is in for 10+ million in 3 years. And that + is likely real and a few more million.



No idea of a real target tbh. But if TK gets you one either through the draft this year or next or a player or prospect you need to do it. It’s a no brainer for a young 1C but even a couple of 1sts is a must.

I have seen projections of him reaching that, but I think most reasonable takes (incl Appleyard) have him at around ~55-60 points to start his career. Not sure why you’d be clamouring to pay out the ass for 3rd liners to surround Michkov in that situation. Just draft well and a LOT, let him marinate and play freely without expectations of competing for the playoffs and let these terrible contracts go away. See what you have in your picks 3 years from now and then decide accordingly whether a few futures can be traded to fill gaps.

 

[BiggE]

what's everyone's thoughts on how Michkov will endure a full NHL season?

Once Torts moves him to center and puts him between Cates and Hathaway, I’m sure he’ll have a dandy time. Only thing better would be getting to play on a powerplay designed by Rocky Thompson

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Of all the recent-ish moves, this is the one that annoys me the most.

The Flyers would have been better off keeping Ghost in every possible way. Assets, talent level, contribution and play on ice, contracts and money wasted.

OUT
Ghost,
1st,
2nd
2nd
3rd
4th
7th
Hagg

IN
Ristolainen
DeAngelo

Such a ridiculous set of moves.

Honestly dude… where’s the disclaimer?

 

[BernieParent]

The higher ups believe in money.

Of course but I doubt they believe the income and the tough love are mutually exclusive.

 

[TheKingPin]

I have seen projections of him reaching that, but I think most reasonable takes (incl Appleyard) have him at around ~55-60 points to start his career. Not sure why you’d be clamouring to pay out the ass for 3rd liners to surround Michkov in that situation. Just draft well and a LOT, let him marinate and play freely without expectations of competing for the playoffs and let these terrible contracts go away. See what you have in your picks 3 years from now and then decide accordingly whether a few futures can be traded to fill gaps.

He’s your window so you have to look at maximizing it

 

[MorgantiDrinksBlood]

Well hold on now he still will need to show that he can out hit, out compete, out fight, and out locker room Nic Deslauriers.

All that matters is if he can fight and hit, possibly bite too, ask Morganti.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Turn Michkov to Michkow

He's Matthew Mitchcough actually...

 

[mize370]

Once Torts moves him to center and puts him between Cates and Hathaway, I’m sure he’ll have a dandy time. Only thing better would be getting to play on a powerplay designed by Rocky Thompson

You know damn well that this would happen!!

 

[TheKingPin]

I have seen projections of him reaching that, but I think most reasonable takes (incl Appleyard) have him at around ~55-60 points to start his career. Not sure why you’d be clamouring to pay out the ass for 3rd liners to surround Michkov in that situation. Just draft well and a LOT, let him marinate and play freely without expectations of competing for the playoffs and let these terrible contracts go away. See what you have in your picks 3 years from now and then decide accordingly whether a few futures can be traded to fill gaps.

Zegras seems like a perfect compliment for coots. Trade for him, bring Michkov, fire Torts, hire Brindy. Hope we get a top 6 wing and top 4 D this draft.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

"In the KHL, there's lots of looping and swinging, and speed. I already know a couple of things that we're going to have to work on with Michkov to get him ready to play the North American style of game" - Armstrong



"[Lyksell] wants to play a possession game and turn back with the puck at times. It was a habit that he had to break" - Flahr

When Ville Leino was really good here that’s how he played

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Zegras seems like a perfect compliment for coots. Trade for him, bring Michkov, fire Torts, hire Brindy. Hope we get a top 6 wing and top 4 D this draft.

Brind’Amour is going nowhere.

 

[Appleyard]

Фаны «Филадельфии» о возможном приезде Мичкова уже этим летом: отдайте за него любые деньги

Председатель совета директоров СКА Александр Медведев допустил возможность того, что принадлежащий санкт-петербургскому клубу Матвей Мичков может пере...

inoprosport.ru

@Kshahdoo you are Russian news famous now aha. Guess they pulled a post from somewhere!

 

[Kshahdoo]

Фаны «Филадельфии» о возможном приезде Мичкова уже этим летом: отдайте за него любые деньги

Председатель совета директоров СКА Александр Медведев допустил возможность того, что принадлежащий санкт-петербургскому клубу Матвей Мичков может пере...

inoprosport.ru

@Kshahdoo you are Russian news famous now aha. Guess they pulled a post from somewhere!

Of course they couldn't quote/translate me without a error. A small one but still...

 

[mr4tno]

Of all the recent-ish moves, this is the one that annoys me the most.

The Flyers would have been better off keeping Ghost in every possible way. Assets, talent level, contribution and play on ice, contracts and money wasted.

OUT
Ghost,
1st,
2nd
2nd
3rd
4th
7th
Hagg

IN
Ristolainen
DeAngelo

Such a ridiculous set of moves.

Is the "out" on TDA included under the Ghost list?

 

[flyersnorth]

Is the "out" on TDA included under the Ghost list?

Yeah, we gave Carolina a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for the rights to Deangelo. I didn’t include Rizzo in the “in” though. Probably should I guess.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Positive omen? Interesting choice of shirt!

 

[GKJ]

Michkov doing the lord’s work