Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[surlysailor]

Sadly I guess G would be too pricey for Vegas. I would be thrilled if the rangers could move G. But if Vegas get rid of a player to free up salary, they’ll probably want a pick or prospect.

I agree, no idea why they are interested in G, unless Lehner goes on IR as well. If they need to shed salary maybe something like G & Hajek for Doro & Broisset? Clears about a million from the cap for this and next season. Though not sure how much G will get on his next deal

 

[NYRangers16]

The move is Mark Scheifele in the offseason. He is one of 19 PPG players over the last 4 seasons. The comparisons to Ryan Strome and Yanni Gourde are beyond insanity. You would literally have two number one lines - and both Kakko and Laf playing with elite players. His contract is perfect for the 2 year window the Rangers are entering cap wise. He is the ideal answer.

You build lines 3/4 specifically around defense/energy/grit to diversify the team. (Goodrow/Lehkonen or Jarnkrok/Blais/Barron/ etc)

An elite offensive PPG center is not the player to whine about defensively. And he has 31 points in 33 career playoff games - his numbers do not dip - so that narrative can be put to bed quickly.

Lundkvist or Miller, Chytil, a 1st --- mid level prospect or more picks to close the gap -- it is not a deal that will come cheap.

This it nutso.

 

[RGY]

The move is Mark Scheifele in the offseason. He is one of 19 PPG players over the last 4 seasons. The comparisons to Ryan Strome and Yanni Gourde are beyond insanity. You would literally have two number one lines - and both Kakko and Laf playing with elite players. His contract is perfect for the 2 year window the Rangers are entering cap wise. He is the ideal answer.

You build lines 3/4 specifically around defense/energy/grit to diversify the team. (Goodrow/Lehkonen or Jarnkrok/Blais/Barron/ etc)

An elite offensive PPG center is not the player to whine about defensively. And he has 31 points in 33 career playoff games - his numbers do not dip - so that narrative can be put to bed quickly.

Lundkvist or Miller, Chytil, a 1st --- mid level prospect or more picks to close the gap -- it is not a deal that will come cheap.

If you are willing to do Mark Scheifele in the offseason then you should be willing to do it now. However, I dont know about the value of your trade proposal. I think it is one piece too much and it should not include Miller.

Then get a 2nd/3rd line tweener winger that can help with puck possession, forechecking, and tough to play against.

 

[Daves a mess]

Malkin was never a standout defender behind Crosby as a 2C. That’s where a defensive minded, shutdown third line comes into play.

They had the luxury of drafting Jordan Staal there. Perfect fit at the perfect time.

 

[nyaz11]

If you are willing to do Mark Scheifele in the offseason then you should be willing to do it now. However, I dont know about the value of your trade proposal. I think it is one piece too much and it should not include Miller.

Then get a 2nd/3rd line tweener winger that can help with puck possession, forechecking, and tough to play against.

I would do so in a heartbeat. I don't think Winnipeg is going to sell, unless they truly fall out of it - they're only 5 points out and chasing the Kings/Stars as of now.

I agree with you if Miller is in it, it should reduce the number of assets - if it's Lundkvist - they're going to want more.

I think MS is being severely underestimated on this board. We're talking about a player who offensively (career), has better numbers than Mika across the board - though the last few years they are very close to even - and is on a contract that fits the Rangers window better than anybody in his class.

What would this board be asking for - for 2.5 years of Mika on a 6.125 million dollar cap it... the ask would be astronomical. Down year or not.

 

[nyaz11]

This it nutso.

You find a better solution - and i'll tip my cap. I won't hold my breath.

 

[NYRangers16]

I would do so in a heartbeat. I don't think Winnipeg is going to sell, unless they truly fall out of it - they're only 5 points out and chasing the Kings/Stars as of now.

I agree with you if Miller is in it, it should reduce the number of assets - if it's Lundkvist - they're going to want more.

I think MS is being severely underestimated on this board. We're talking about a player who offensively (career), has better numbers than Mika across the board - though the last few years they are very close to even - and is on a contract that fits the Rangers window better than anybody in his class.

What would this board be asking for - for 2.5 years of Mika on a 6.125 million dollar cap it... the ask would be astronomical. Down year or not.

I love how people complain about Strome’s defense(as they should), but are willing to deal for MS. Maybe get a 2C that isn’t attrocious defensively? Maybe that will help with playoff style hockey? Just sayin…

 

[NYRangers16]

You find a better solution - and i'll tip my cap. I won't hold my breath.

Better than adding more offense to a team with it already? Almost anything would be better than this

And you want to include Miller too… gtfo of here lol

 

[nyaz11]

Better than adding more offense to a team with it already? Almost anything would be better than this

And you want to include Miller too… gtfo of here lol

Man - you're comparing Ryan Strome --- to a top 20 scorer in the NHL... stop it. Strome has been great for the team since he got here - I'm open to keeping Strome if he takes a deal that fits him in cap wise. But we're talking about a different level of player.

We're talking about a guy who has finished in the top-10 scoring in the league.. twice in the last 5 years. He adds a much, much different level of offense. This is adding to the Mika class - a bonafide 1C to the team - at a similar cap hit as Strome for the next two seasons.

I understand the defensive concerns - I roll that dice to get another Elite offensive performer - and I go hard on building 3rd and 4th lines that are shut down energy lines.

MS has outscored Mika every year but once - and Mika is on pace to beat him this year, which would be twice.... and you're talking about comparing him to Ryan Strome.

 

[MrAlmost]

Stay away from Scheifele. If you trade with the Jets, get Copp. Scheifele is trending down and if he comes here he will be worse.

 

[MrPodz]

I know people are talking about reilly smith as an option and with mark stone on ltir, it seems unlikely they will move him, but I just feel like they would move dadanov first. Call it a gut instinct, idk. Also daily faceoff had vegas call rangers about geo. If someone has the link, please send it so I dont seem like a liar (can't find it right now). Outside of a 3rd round pick, i dont know what price theyd be able to get for geo that drury would like.

 

[Vitto79]

Is Drouin worth a shot ? Can play w Kreider and Zib at RW? 1 year

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

 

[Clark Kellogg]

No thanks to Scheifele.

Shiny toy of a player and not a true difference maker when it counts. Would rather have another Goodrow

Gus Nyquist?

 

[bobbop]

The Rangers could easily retain salary here to facilitate a deal. I would imagine Drury has a line on a replacement backup goaltender.

This could facilitate a larger deal.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Drury is not exactly known for being a shrewd negotiator. I could see him making some stupid trade like that.

 

[Tob]

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Drury is not exactly known for being a shrewd negotiator. I could see him making some stupid trade like that.

Drury doesn't have a long enough track record to say one way or the other.

 

[IDvsEGO]

If this is true buckle up Ranger fans we are about to see a GM completely get robbed in trades. Mike Milbury bad of a GM.

I don’t get it. We potentially traded two prospects who were never going to play on the rangers. We didn’t give up a first nor anyone of potential value like othmann.

it hurts absolutely, but the reports were they wanted a first for chiarot and lehkonen each.

we gave up no first and a single a prospect and we shed cap. I don’t need to fleece a gm, in a perfect world trades are net positives for both teams and that’s what this would be.

 

[Peltz]

The Rangers could easily retain salary here to facilitate a deal. I would imagine Drury has a line on a replacement backup goaltender.

This could facilitate a larger deal.

Shesterkin can get hurt at any time as we all have seen these past two seasons. Rangers need a good backup.

I don't like giving up Georgiev this year for anything less than a second rounder or NHL ready RW or Center. I was hard on Georgiev earlier this year, but he stepped up after Shesty's injury and re-estalished his game.

 

[dshea19]

@Edge @BBKers , you guys hearing anything? Is there some smoke around Montreal?

 

[cwede]

also at NYR.com
New York Rangers 2021 Roster
Patrik Nemeth *
* = Injured reserve

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

also at NYR.com
New York Rangers 2021 Roster
Patrik Nemeth *
* = Injured reserve

Did we ever find out what exactly happened with him?

 

[rangers1314]

Hope Staal gets a nice ovation tonight, he was a soldier here.

 

[dshea19]

Did we ever find out what exactly happened with him?

He read this board and inured his feelings.