Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[BBKers]

Another one bites the dust - these threads are melting quicker than A Good Humor Truck stranded in Death Valley… maybe try to focus more on the threads oblivious purpose - although the last one was better than many before it…

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[egelband]

doubt vgk gives up a roster player. Maybe g for dorofeyev? Seems to be having a great first season in the ahl. Also helps nyr since they have a lack of center prospects

Sadly I guess G would be too pricey for Vegas. I would be thrilled if the rangers could move G. But if Vegas get rid of a player to free up salary, they’ll probably want a pick or prospect.

 

[RGY]

Trade for Scheifele. Trade for Lekhonen (as long as the price isnt insane) Othmann added for the playoffs.

Kreider-Zib-Laf
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Othmann-Scheifele-Lekhonen
Goodrow-Rooney-Hunt/Blais
Reavo

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Scheifle as 3rd line center? lmfao ... it's either Scheifle or Strome.

Also no regards for the cap whatsoever.

Also Blais is a 3rd line player and out for the season.

 

[MrPodz]

Trade for Scheifele. Trade for Lekhonen (as long as the price isnt insane) Othmann added for the playoffs.

Kreider-Zib-Laf
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Othmann-Scheifele-Lekhonen
Goodrow-Rooney-Hunt/Blais
Reavo

Is it wierd that i dont really want scheifele? Hes amazing on offense but defensively is just not good... never has been. I think lekhonen is a great piece though. We need a finisher on that third though.

 

[Ola]

For this off-season:

Alt 1.

*Let Strome walk.

*Move Laf to center.

*Of course try to improve 3c, getting someone with more speed there, but its probably hard to get something done.

*Secure that this team will be competitive for the coming decade plus by resigning the kids to good contracts while we have room under the cap.

Kreider-Ziba-Kakko
Panarin-Laf-Goodrow
Blais-Chytil-Hunt
Reeves-Rooney-Gauthier
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Schneider

Alt 2.

Do the above, but add a cheap underperforming center to play with Panarin. Alex Nylander for example.

 

[Anthony5967]

Scheifele isn’t a bad move. However, the only thing that worries me about him is he’s never gone deep into the playoffs, right? He’s been on some very good teams, too.

 

[Synergy27]

Scheifle as 3rd line center? lmfao ... it's either Scheifle or Strome.

Also no regards for the cap whatsoever.

Also Blais is a 3rd line player and out for the season.

The cap is not an issue for the rest of this season. They can add whatever they want whenever they want.

 

[haohmaru]

Lafreniere is not moving to center. Can we please stop with this nonsense.

 

[tlk]

That's Ola level Alt

 

[duhmetreE]

Scheifele isn’t a bad move. However, the only thing that worries me about him is he’s never gone deep into the playoffs, right? He’s been on some very good teams, too.

yes because he's only offense

In what universe is that what we need with Mika and Strome

 

[Anthony5967]

yes because he's only offense

In what universe is that what we need with Mika and Strome

You’re not keeping Strome too lmao

 

[duhmetreE]

You’re not keeping Strome too lmao

It's not different than where we are now. Better offensively but not diverse enough to win imo.

including all the assets to give up

and do we really think Drury will drop Strome just to give up assets for Scheifele? I just don't see it happening. If a scenario like this does play out, it will be with a different center, stylistically speaking.

 

[Anthony5967]

It's not different than where we are now. Better offensively but not diverse enough to win imo.

including all the assets to give up

Malkin was never a standout defender behind Crosby as a 2C. That’s where a defensive minded, shutdown third line comes into play.

 

[duhmetreE]

Malkin was never a standout defender behind Crosby as a 2C. That’s where a defensive minded, shutdown third line comes into play.

That's the point. We're giving up a bunch of assets to be exactly where we are now. It's bad asset management. IT's making a trade to make a trade.

Larkin and Gourde would be a different story IMO. These guys add something that the team doesn't have.

 

[Anthony5967]

That's the point. We're giving up a bunch of assets to be exactly where we are now. It's bad asset management. IT's making a trade to make a trade.

Larkin and Gourde would be a different story IMO. These guys add something that the team doesn't have.

Gourde for $5.5M, right? The only thing is he now becomes your 2C.

 

[duhmetreE]

Normally, the Y axis limits at 3 suffice for 99.999% of the players.

For Scheifele we have to put it to 5 to see how bad he is.

IT's a 4 year trend and it's getting worse every year.

 

[Anthony5967]

Normally, the Y axis limits at 3 suffice for 99.999% of the players.

For Scheifele we have to put it to 5 to see how bad he is.

IT's a 4 year trend and it's getting worse every year.

Does this take into account how bad this team actually is on the backend, though? Pionk is good, but he’s not a team’s #1. Hellebuyck isn’t even having a crazy year.

 

[duhmetreE]

Gourde for $5.5M, right? The only thing is he now becomes your 2C.

Gourde @ 5.5M but Seattle is a team that can retain.

Winnipeg cannot.

Gourde >>>>> Scheifele with Panarin. If we're talking about actually playing to win.

 

[Anthony5967]

Gourde @ 5.5M but Seattle is a team that can retain.

Winnipeg cannot.

Gourde >>>>> Scheifele with Panarin. If we're talking about actually playing to win.

Seattle is going to retain for three years?

 

[duhmetreE]

Seattle is going to retain for three years?

Is Winnipeg going to retain?

We can't even afford ( or just barely ) Strome at $5M.

 

[Anthony5967]

Is Winnipeg going to retain?

We can't even afford ( or just barely ) Strome at $5M.

They can afford $5-6M fine, but it’s the right guy they choose to invest it in that matters. You would rather Strome, a guy I really like, over a dynamic player like Scheifele? You can dump Nemeth, Georgiev, and you’re at like $4.8M dealt at that point.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

If I’m Drury, I’m looking to add before the deadline. The writing for the transition into a competitor has been on the wall since Gorts and JD got the boot last year…we might as well embrace it. And If they really want to take that next step into the upper echelon of the league, they need real playoff experience. Not coasting into the playoffs and getting bounced in 4-5 games in the first round. Contrary to what the schedule says, playoff hockey starts soon for the teams that hope to be involved. Shore up the roster, turn your pace up, make a run at the division, and make yourself known in the playoffs.

That said, I don’t think it makes much sense to put all your eggs in this year’s basket. We can make a few moves to improve our roster in the short term without sacrificing assets we view as long term pieces of the puzzle. The only way I’d move any of the top 5-6 prospects is if we’re adding a piece that fits almost the entire 3-5 year window we have opening. And I’m not sure there’s anyone truly available like that right now.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

No thanks to Scheifele.

Shiny toy of a player and not a true difference maker when it counts. Would rather have another Goodrow

 

[nyaz11]

The move is Mark Scheifele in the offseason. He is one of 19 PPG players over the last 4 seasons. The comparisons to Ryan Strome and Yanni Gourde are beyond insanity. You would literally have two number one lines - and both Kakko and Laf playing with elite players. His contract is perfect for the 2 year window the Rangers are entering cap wise. He is the ideal answer.

You build lines 3/4 specifically around defense/energy/grit to diversify the team. (Goodrow/Lehkonen or Jarnkrok/Blais/Barron/ etc)

An elite offensive PPG center is not the player to whine about defensively. And he has 31 points in 33 career playoff games - his numbers do not dip - so that narrative can be put to bed quickly.

Lundkvist or Miller, Chytil, a 1st --- mid level prospect or more picks to close the gap -- it is not a deal that will come cheap.