Both of these palyers are great hockey players and played with eachother for a year and a bit in missausauga, question is who is better? and who would you rather have on your team?
Monkeypox said:What exactly makes O'Sullivan so dangerous? Does he have great speed, shot?
Good speed, good shot, great vision, great puck control.... he seems to make something happen every time he's on the ice - either for himself or setting up a linemate.Monkeypox said:What exactly makes O'Sullivan so dangerous? Does he have great speed, shot?
Schremp's skating ability is the one thing that leads me to be a bit cautiously optimistic about his future with the Oilers. His overall speed is a much bigger concern to me than his defensive play. He looks like he's going to be a pretty amazing powerplay guy but the jury is still out on if he'll be effective in 5on5 situations...Jacobv2 said:A few things that don't show up on the stats sheet are speed, of which Schremp has none. Also defensive ability, where O'Sullivan is far superior.
+25 on the second line as opposed to +9 on the top "scoring line"? I know Schremp's weakness is defense but come on....Is that all you got on the kid? Can't we just say that we're jelous that Edmonton has rights to him and you don't?Jacobv2 said:A few things that don't show up on the stats sheet are speed, of which Schremp has none. Also defensive ability, where O'Sullivan is far superior.
So you think Schremp is a good defensive player?usher said:+25 on the second line as opposed to +9 on the top "scoring line"? I know Schremp's weakness is defense but come on....Is that all you got on the kid? Can't we just say that we're jelous that Edmonton has rights to him and you don't?
Nope. Don't get me wrong. I just think you're out of line and making it sound like a you can play better defense than he can. It's not his strong point but again, defense can be taught. Look at Ethan Moreau, he was a scoring dynamo in the OHL once now converted into one of the best chekers in the NHL. Defense can be taught. When you compare offensive potential, i'm not sure how you can say that O'Sullivan has a higher ceiling.Jacobv2 said:So you think Schremp is a good defensive player?
That is a dumb statement.Nope. Don't get me wrong. I just think you're out of line and making it sound like a you can play better defense than he can.
So Schremp is going to be taught to be a good skater, and be taught to also be a good defensive player? Geeze, he's going to be a pretty busy guy. Meanwhile, I guess O'Sullivan won't be improving on anything at all, huh? If Schremp can be taught to skate well and be perfect in his own zone, O'Sullivan should have no problem learning how to be a better offensive player than Schremp, right?It's not his strong point but again, defense can be taught. Look at Ethan Moreau, he was a scoring dynamo in the OHL once now converted into one of the best chekers in the NHL. Defense can be taught.
I didn't.When you compare offensive potential, i'm not sure how you can say that O'Sullivan has a higher ceiling.
Oh, so you found hockeydb.com too. Yay.O'Sullivan at the same age was (-43) so how can you say that he is better defensively than Robbie Scremp. -43 is a friggin hude minus rating. Yet over the years has improved his defense and he's at a reliable +9. Good for him, i like Pat. But not as much as Robbie Schremp.
Cerebral said:Schremp's skating ability is the one thing that leads me to be a bit cautiously optimistic about his future with the Oilers. His overall speed is a much bigger concern to me than his defensive play. He looks like he's going to be a pretty amazing powerplay guy but the jury is still out on if he'll be effective in 5on5 situations...
.Jacobv2 said:That is a dumb statement.
That was thought provoking. How old are you kid?
So Schremp is going to be taught to be a good skater, and be taught to also be a good defensive player? Geeze, he's going to be a pretty busy guy. Meanwhile, I guess O'Sullivan won't be improving on anything at all, huh? If Schremp can be taught to skate well and be perfect in his own zone, O'Sullivan should have no problem learning how to be a better offensive player than Schremp, right?
Hockey is a sport of passion. If Scremp wasn't willing to do these things then he doesn't belong in any hockey league and i wouldn't be defending him right now. So lets say Robbie was fast, what would that get him? Become the next Todd Marchant? The next Jason Chimera? The next Konstantin Koltsov? I mean Doug Weight is as slow as a snail but still had horrible 90 and 100 point seasons. Wow, speed is really really under-rated huh?
I didn't.
You implied it and yes Schremp will be better.
Oh, so you found hockeydb.com too. Yay.
oh so what middle school do you attend? do your parents still drive you to school?
Exactly. I really love that comparison. Douggie never had the "speed" to be the next scoring dynamo's Todd Marchant, Jason Chimera and Konstantin Koltsov, but still had the skill level to get him 90 and 100 point seasons. I see the same kind of future for Robbie Schremp.Rabid Ranger said:I think Schremp's upside is Doug Weight, who isn't exactly a speed merchant or a great defensive player, but is lethal on the power play, and will make players around him better.
Weight is a pretty good skater (used to be a really good one) and I'd consider him a legit two-way center.Rabid Ranger said:I think Schremp's upside is Doug Weight, who isn't exactly a speed merchant or a great defensive player, but is lethal on the power play, and will make players around him better.
Why are you arguing with a middle schooler?oh so what middle school do you attend? do your parents still drive you to school?
That's what I see as well. I personally feel he has the potential to a Weight-type player with a bit more scoring ability and a bit less pure playmaking skill. He's made a lot of progress so far this season under Hunter and I'm hoping he takes another big step in his development next year...Rabid Ranger said:I think Schremp's upside is Doug Weight, who isn't exactly a speed merchant or a great defensive player, but is lethal on the power play, and will make players around him better.
usher said:That was thought provoking. How old are you kid?