Robbie Schremp vs Patty O'Sullivan

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  1. niconi09

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    Both of these palyers are great hockey players and played with eachother for a year and a bit in missausauga, question is who is better? and who would you rather have on your team?
     
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    Both are great players, its really hard to choose between them.

    IMO Schremp has better shot (Osullivan has great shot to though)
    but Osullivan is faster and a bit more dangerous

    I think Schremp is more of a powerplay specialist

    I'd have to go w/ OSullivan, but they are both high risk, high reward type players

    Although Schremp would seem to fit in well with Edmonton's young offensive prospects
     
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    Schremp is a good player, but I think O'Sullivan is the best player in the OHL. He's a threat every moment he's on the ice.
     
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    What exactly makes O'Sullivan so dangerous? Does he have great speed, shot?
     
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    From watching i just remeber that supercrazyblazing speed. I only saw him a little bit though...

    I can't pick between the two...i like schremp, but i don't know....
     
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    Good speed, good shot, great vision, great puck control.... he seems to make something happen every time he's on the ice - either for himself or setting up a linemate.
     
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    Patty O for me
     
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    He wore a bum's pair of shoes:dunno: , you just can't beat that. Patty O.
     
  9. O Sullivan. Schrep has bailed out on what ever bad teams hes played for since who knows when. Oilers is exactly that. A sTruggling team.
     
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    Patty for now, but he is also a year older. I'll wait till I see Schremp's next year in the OHL to make a final comparison
     
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    O'Sullivan, to me, looks a lot like Jason Blake. I don't know if that's good or not, that's just who he reminds me of.
     
  12. outKast*

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    It's not even close. Robbie Schremp

    Robbie Schremp (4th in the OHL in goals and points)
    Vitals: 6'0 185lbs 18 Years Old
    http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/player.php?id=2479

    2004-05
    Games Played: 48
    Goals: 31
    Assists: 40
    Points: 71
    Points Per Game: 1.48PPG
    +/-: +25

    Robbie's been playing on the second line playing with lesser players on even strength and yet has still amassed that many points. He's playing with mediocre linemates. He's a year younger than most of his teamates and certainly younger than O'Sullivan. Robbie can play defense but not well. He's +25 though which is kind of deceiving. Yzerman couldn't play defense in the early stages of his NHL career also. Now he's one of the best 2way players in NHL history. (Whats my point? defense can be taught. not offense)


    Patrick O'Sullivan (10th in OHL scoring)
    Vitals: 5'11 185lbs born in 20 Years Old
    http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/player.php?id=2557

    2004-05
    Games Played: 41
    Goals: 21
    Assists: 41
    Points: 62
    Points per game: 1.51
    +/-: +9

    Good player. But he's almost 2 years older and is Mississauga's go to guy yet only has 0.03 PPG higher than Robbie Schremp. Doesn't have Schremp's wrist shot or Schremp's dominance on the half boards. Is better defensively. Relatively, they're the same size although it's listed that Robbie has an inch on him.


    Again, Robbie Schremp for me by far. No question.
     
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    A few things that don't show up on the stats sheet are speed, of which Schremp has none. Also defensive ability, where O'Sullivan is far superior.
     
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    Schremp's skating ability is the one thing that leads me to be a bit cautiously optimistic about his future with the Oilers. His overall speed is a much bigger concern to me than his defensive play. He looks like he's going to be a pretty amazing powerplay guy but the jury is still out on if he'll be effective in 5on5 situations...
     
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    +25 on the second line as opposed to +9 on the top "scoring line"? I know Schremp's weakness is defense but come on....Is that all you got on the kid? Can't we just say that we're jelous that Edmonton has rights to him and you don't?
     
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    Jaret Stoll used to be a worse skater than Robbie Scremp actually. Now he's one of the better skaters on the Roadrunners and was a good enough skater to play the checking center for Edmonton last year. Skating: can be taught to a young NHL prospect. Not such a big issue. If Robbie was some 31 year old European who couldn't skate i would worry. But he's barely 18 and he has many years ahead of him to develop his skating to complement his offensive arsenal.
     
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    So you think Schremp is a good defensive player?
     
  18. outKast*

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    Nope. Don't get me wrong. I just think you're out of line and making it sound like a you can play better defense than he can. It's not his strong point but again, defense can be taught. Look at Ethan Moreau, he was a scoring dynamo in the OHL once now converted into one of the best chekers in the NHL. Defense can be taught. When you compare offensive potential, i'm not sure how you can say that O'Sullivan has a higher ceiling.

    O'Sullivan at one point was (-43) so how can you say that he is better defensively than Robbie Scremp. -43 is a friggin huge minus rating. Yet over the years has improved his defense and he's at a reliable +9. Good for him, i like Pat. But not as much as Robbie Schremp.
     
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    That is a dumb statement.
    So Schremp is going to be taught to be a good skater, and be taught to also be a good defensive player? Geeze, he's going to be a pretty busy guy. Meanwhile, I guess O'Sullivan won't be improving on anything at all, huh? If Schremp can be taught to skate well and be perfect in his own zone, O'Sullivan should have no problem learning how to be a better offensive player than Schremp, right?
    I didn't.
    Oh, so you found hockeydb.com too. Yay.
     
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    I think Schremp's upside is Doug Weight, who isn't exactly a speed merchant or a great defensive player, but is lethal on the power play, and will make players around him better.
     
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    Exactly. I really love that comparison. Douggie never had the "speed" to be the next scoring dynamo's Todd Marchant, Jason Chimera and Konstantin Koltsov, but still had the skill level to get him 90 and 100 point seasons. I see the same kind of future for Robbie Schremp.
     
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    Weight is a pretty good skater (used to be a really good one) and I'd consider him a legit two-way center.

    Why are you arguing with a middle schooler?
     
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    That's what I see as well. I personally feel he has the potential to a Weight-type player with a bit more scoring ability and a bit less pure playmaking skill. He's made a lot of progress so far this season under Hunter and I'm hoping he takes another big step in his development next year...
     
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