Rank ALL top prospects including this years draft..

[Randall Graves*]

Rank the top 10-15 forward prospects.
Rank the top 10-15 defensive prospects
rank the top 5-10 goaltending prospects.

I would like this to include this years draft picks since this is the NHL draft forum afterall.

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[AnThGrt]

Fowards:
1. Ovekchin (I know it will be other way around but i think he's better)
2. Crosby
3. Malkin
4. Zherdev
5. Pouliot
6. Semin
7. Bobby Ryan
8. Vanek
9. Horton
10. Brown
11. Brule
12. Kopitar
13. Tukonen
14. O'Marra
15. Getzlaf

Defense
1. Johnson
2. Phaneuf
3. Suter
4. Barker
5. Babchuk
6. Thelen
7. Grebs
8. Bourdon
9. Coliacovo
10. Ballard
11. Whitney
12. Tjutin (Forgot him should be higher)
13. Lee
14. Eminger
15. Not sure

Golies
1. Lehtonen
2. Fleury
3. Price
4. Toivonen
5. Rask
6. Oullet
7. Bryzgalov
8. Montoya

Not sure about last two golies and i'm sure some of my rankings are off but i think this is somewhat correct - Tryed doing everything off the top of my mind so may of missed someone here or there or miss ranked

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Rank the top 10-15 forward prospects.
Rank the top 10-15 defensive prospects
rank the top 5-10 goaltending prospects.

I would like this to include this years draft picks since this is the NHL draft forum afterall.

Forwards:
Crosby/Ovechkin
Malkin
Carter
Vanek
Kopitar
Ryan
Brule
Richards
Michalek
Parise
Getzlaf
Bourret
Olesz
Koivu

Defensemen:
Johnson
Suter
Phaneuf
Corburn
Barker
Kronwall
Seabrook
Meszaros
Tyutin
Staal
Grebeshkov
Whitney
Stuart
Smid
Parent

Goaltenders
Lehtonen
Toivonen
Ward
Nittymaki
Fleury
Miller
Rask
Finley
Howard
Dubnyk
Harding
Danis
Schneider
Price
Stana

in order, let me know if i forgot anyone.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Forwards:
Crosby/Ovechkin
Malkin
Carter
Vanek
Kopitar
Ryan
Brule
Richards
Michalek
Parise
Getzlaf
Bourret
Olesz
Koivu

Defensemen:
Johnson
Suter
Phaneuf
Corburn
Barker
Kronwall
Seabrook
Meszaros
Tyutin
Staal
Grebeshkov
Whitney
Stuart
Smid
Parent

Goaltenders
Lehtonen
Toivonen
Ward
Nittymaki
Fleury
Miller
Rask
Finley
Howard
Dubnyk
Harding
Danis
Schneider
Price
Stana

in order, let me know if i forgot anyone.

Lundqvist? For Goalies...

 

[Buffalo Stylee]

Fowards:
1. Ovekchin (I know it will be other way around but i think he's better)
2. Crosby
3. Malkin
4. Zherdev
5. Pouliot
6. Semin
7. Bobby Ryan
8. Vanek
9. Horton
10. Brown
11. Brule
12. Kopitar
13. Tukonen
14. O'Marra
15. Getzlaf

Defense
1. Johnson
2. Phaneuf
3. Suter
4. Barker
5. Babchuk
6. Thelen
7. Grebs
8. Bourdon
9. Coliacovo
10. Ballard
11. Whitney
12. Tjutin (Forgot him should be higher)
13. Lee
14. Eminger
15. Not sure

Bobby Ryan ahead of Vanek and Brule?? I don't know about that. I like your defense list, although Eminger should probably be ahead of Lee.

 

[Draft Guru]

Why do people always ask other people to do the work for them?

 

[AnThGrt]

Bobby Ryan ahead of Vanek and Brule?? I don't know about that. I like your defense list, although Eminger should probably be ahead of Lee.

Ya i dont know much about Ryan prob should of changed that as i commented though i was doing it off the top of my head and ya may of forgotten everyone its hard to keep 1000000 names in your head and know details about all of them but thx for the compliment on the defense list

 

[AnThGrt]

Forwards:
Crosby/Ovechkin
Malkin
Carter
Vanek
Kopitar
Ryan
Brule
Richards
Michalek
Parise
Getzlaf
Bourret
Olesz
Koivu

So Brown isnt on there after being i believe 24th this year? That also being said having a dominating season in the AHL - Surelly deserves to be there before Richards, Michalek, Getzlaf, Parise, Bourret, Olesz, Koivu and Tukonen should come before some of those too

 

[DaveMatthew]

Fowards:
1. Ovekchin (I know it will be other way around but i think he's better)
2. Crosby
3. Malkin
4. Zherdev
5. Pouliot
6. Semin
7. Bobby Ryan
8. Vanek
9. Horton
10. Brown
11. Brule
12. Kopitar
13. Tukonen
14. O'Marra
15. Getzlaf

Defense
1. Johnson
2. Phaneuf
3. Suter
4. Barker
5. Babchuk
6. Thelen
7. Grebs
8. Bourdon
9. Coliacovo
10. Ballard
11. Whitney
12. Tjutin (Forgot him should be higher)
13. Lee
14. Eminger
15. Not sure

Golies
1. Lehtonen
2. Fleury
3. Price
4. Toivonen
5. Rask
6. Oullet
7. Bryzgalov
8. Montoya

Not sure about last two golies and i'm sure some of my rankings are off but i think this is somewhat correct - Tryed doing everything off the top of my mind so may of missed someone here or there or miss ranked

No Marc Staal on defense? I think your overrating Coliacovo. I'd prefer to have Andrej Meszaros. On offense I'd put Brule ahead of Brown.

 

[GnomE]

I don't see any reason why BArker is ranked ahead of Whitney. At least I find it amusing that in everybody's list, he is ranked more than five spots ahead of Whitney.

 

[AnThGrt]

No Marc Staal on defense? I think your overrating Coliacovo. I'd prefer to have Andrej Meszaros. On offense I'd put Brule ahead of Brown.

There ya go i knew i'd forget someone ya Staal should be on there once again i did it off the top of my head my apology atleast i tried

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

So Brown isnt on there after being i believe 24th this year? That also being said having a dominating season in the AHL - Surelly deserves to be there before Richards, Michalek, Getzlaf, Parise, Bourret, Olesz, Koivu and Tukonen should come before some of those too

You are complaining that Tukonen isn't in the top 15 forwards prospect list? Thats pretty funny stuff.Some people would rather Parise, Richards, Michalek and Getzlaf over Brown....live with it.

 

[AnThGrt]

You are complaining that Tukonen isn't in the top 15 forwards prospect list? Thats pretty funny stuff.Some people would rather Parise, Richards, Michalek and Getzlaf over Brown....live with it.

Look at the current top 50 and you'll see them there

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Look at the current top 50 and you'll see them there

This list was put out mid november....the people on the committee had that list done before this season, before Tukonen stunk at the under 20 and had an average season. The HF list isn't the end all of lists also, many people and scouts would have a huge difference in opinions....you need to learn that.

 

[Randall Graves*]

Why do people always ask other people to do the work for them?

why should I pretend to know so much about prospects? I am just asking for the opinions of others who probably know more than I do.

whats the problem with that?

 

[ZombieMatt]

This list was put out mid november....the people on the committee had that list done before this season, before Tukonen stunk at the under 20 and had an average season. The HF list isn't the end all of lists also, many people and scouts would have a huge difference in opinions....you need to learn that.

Hold on Jason...

You're meaning to tell the good readers of HF that it is conceivable that there could be wildly differing opinions about a player and that rankings of a list of prospects are often not the same?

I won't believe it. I simply won't believe it.

 

[time]

Suter > Phaneuf?!

Johnson
Suter
Phaneuf
Corburn
Barker
Kronwall
Seabrook
Meszaros
Tyutin
Staal
Grebeshkov
Whitney
Stuart
Smid
Parent



So, a guy who dominates the blueline for two straight WJCs is ranked lower than a draft prospect and a peer whom he consistently outshone?

Until proven otherwise, Dion is the best defenceman outside the NHL. The D-list starts with him.

 

[Epsilon]

Until proven otherwise, Dion is the best defenceman outside the NHL.

I'd say Kronwall has proven that otherwise, if he counts as "outside the NHL".

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Johnson
Suter
Phaneuf
Corburn
Barker
Kronwall
Seabrook
Meszaros
Tyutin
Staal
Grebeshkov
Whitney
Stuart
Smid
Parent



So, a guy who dominates the blueline for two straight WJCs is ranked lower than a draft prospect and a peer whom he consistently outshone?

Until proven otherwise, Dion is the best defenceman outside the NHL. The D-list starts with him.

Fair point on Johnson, but how has Phaneuf consistently outshone Ryan Suter? I don't see it. While Phaneuf was playing in the WHL, Suter was playing exceptionally well at the AHL level.

 

[Amadeus]

Forwards:
Crosby/Ovechkin
Malkin
Carter
Vanek
Kopitar
Ryan
Brule
Richards
Michalek
Parise
Getzlaf
Bourret
Olesz
Koivu

Defensemen:
Johnson
Suter
Phaneuf
Corburn
Barker
Kronwall
Seabrook
Meszaros
Tyutin
Staal
Grebeshkov
Whitney
Stuart
Smid
Parent

Goaltenders
Lehtonen
Toivonen
Ward
Nittymaki
Fleury
Miller
Rask
Finley
Howard
Dubnyk
Harding
Danis
Schneider
Price
Stana

in order, let me know if i forgot anyone.

Meszaros is there and Colaiacovo is not?

 

[gars59]

perezhogin should be there

 

[byeyimini]

huh ?

Why do people always ask other people to do the work for them?

why would you respond like this ? you're a moderator here...

I thought the purpose of this board was to solicit the opinions of others with questions exactly like this. You’re a grump…

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Hold on Jason...

You're meaning to tell the good readers of HF that it is conceivable that there could be wildly differing opinions about a player and that rankings of a list of prospects are often not the same?

I won't believe it. I simply won't believe it.

Well believe this.....Zajac > Wolski.....your list sucks

 

[AnThGrt]

This list was put out mid november....the people on the committee had that list done before this season, before Tukonen stunk at the under 20 and had an average season. The HF list isn't the end all of lists also, many people and scouts would have a huge difference in opinions....you need to learn that.

Well this just shows how little you know about you comments based on Tukonen and your voice should be ignored. If you look first at the under 20 he stunk you said he was second for star points on his team. Might not of put up the points yet he hit the post 7 times in that tournament one inch further and that would of been 7 goals. As for an average season he doubled his production from last year if that isn't an improvement please tell me what is // Obviously there are different opinions i was just stated what "More advised" people wrote

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Well this just shows how little you know about you comments based on Tukonen and your voice should be ignored. If you look first at the under 20 he stunk you said he was second for star points on his team. Might not of put up the points yet he hit the post 7 times in that tournament one inch further and that would of been 7 goals. As for an average season he doubled his production from last year if that isn't an improvement please tell me what is // Obviously there are different opinions i was just stated what "More advised" people wrote

I couldn't care less if he had 100 posts in 1 season.....whats the good of hitting posts? 6 points in 42 games then this season 10 points in 43........he added 4 points to his 2003/04 totals......I guess you would be hyped if he went from 1 point to 3.....that means he tripled his totals.