Olympics: Predict G / S / B / 4th at the Olympics

[Dominance]

Excellent! I hope/pray you are right. Nothing would make me happier than for Canada to go 6 - 0 and outscore their opponents 40-2.

“Like”

 

[ORRFForever]

“Like”

I'm waiting for someone to post, "Why not 40-1? What's your agenda?"

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

There’s not a position outside of goaltending, 1RW (Kane, Kucherov), and 1LD (Hedman) that Canada doesn’t have the top player head to head. Should be a slaughter. I’d give it 70% odds for gold, 10% odds for a fluke final and a silver medal, 10% odds for a fluke semi-final and a bronze medal, and 10% odds for the team to just not come together under the expectations of gold and not medalling at all.

1RD

 

[Mathieukferland]

1RD

Who is better than Makar? Nobody, the only arguement I could see is Hedman and he’s left-sided

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Who is better than Makar? Nobody, the only arguement I could see is Hedman and he’s left-sided

Pretty sure he's referring to Fox but will be in the minority

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Pretty sure he's referring to Fox but will be in the minority

Why didn’t Makar win the Norris then? Seems like most people think Fox is the best defenseman.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Why didn’t Makar win the Norris then? Seems like most people think Fox is the best defenseman.

Makar played 11 less games and Fox only outscored him by 3 points. Makar's team made the playoffs and Fox's didn't. They weren't going to give the award to someone who missed time.

 

[Mathieukferland]

How does Fox win the Norris then? Seems like most people think he’s the best defenseman.

If Makar played the 12 or so games he missed he wins, I think we both know that; Fox (funnily enough someone who I played against often in his younger days) is a very good player but Makar is the best défenseman to enter the league since Victor Hedman, I have never seen someone walk a blueline as well as him and his gap closing ability is elite, he gives very little space in transition. I do think Fox is slightly stronger in front of his own net, in terms of boxing out, but in every other facet of the game I take Makar, who in my opinion is a generational talent in terms of défenseman

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I don’t see why 12 games should matter. It’s pure conjecture to say that it did.

 

[ORRFForever]

I don’t see why 12 games should matter. It’s pure conjecture to say that it did.

Hey! Who did you vote for?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Hey! Who did you vote for?

I didn’t. We don’t even know the rosters yet.

 

[ORRFForever]

I didn’t. We don’t even know the rosters yet.

Come on...

Just vote for the U.S. to add more numbers to the poll - I get a BONUS from HF if I get 1,000,000 votes.

 

[Miro4Norris]

1. Finland
2. Sweden
3. Switzerland
4. Russia

 

[ORRFForever]

1. Finland
2. Sweden
3. Switzerland
4. Russia

My thoughts, exactly.

 

[Syckle78]

I don’t see why 12 games should matter. It’s pure conjecture to say that it did.

12 out of 56 games is clearly a big deal, don't bullshit.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

12 out of 56 games is clearly a big deal, don't bullshit.

Is it a big enough deal that we know that was the deciding factor in why these voters didn’t pick Makar for the Norris?

 

[Phil McKraken]

Lots of Finland support. Nice!

90% of the Finland votes are by Finns, lol. Anyone who doesn't vote Canada here is just a homer.

 

[illone84]

90% of the Finland votes are by Finns, lol. Anyone who doesn't vote Canada here is just a homer.

Blimey! Only 90%? I'd reckon it's 100%

 

[TheBeastCoast]

The American's with a healthy Matthews and Eichel as a 1 2 punch down the middle are a serious threat. They lose Eichel and it certainly looks like he won't be available all of a sudden there depth down the middle looks....bad. Pretty big issue there.

 

[ORRFForever]

The American's with a healthy Matthews and Eichel as a 1 2 punch down the middle are a serious threat. They lose Eichel and it certainly looks like he won't be available all of a sudden there depth down the middle looks....bad. Pretty big issue there.

Yup. The drop off without Eichel is shocking.

 

[J bo Jeans]

I'm someone who thinks the U.S. will win. First, because they are a strong team. Second, because Canada is due for a loss.

If Eichel doesn't play, or plays but isn't 100%, it makes a big difference.

I mean we're 5 months away and Eichel still hasnt had surgery. Odds are getting lower and lower everyday he'll play.

 

[ORRFForever]

I mean we're 5 months away and Eichel still hasnt had surgery. Odds are getting lower and lower everyday he'll play.

Very true.

Actually, we're 4.25 months away. Time is ticking.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

The American's with a healthy Matthews and Eichel as a 1 2 punch down the middle are a serious threat. They lose Eichel and it certainly looks like he won't be available all of a sudden there depth down the middle looks....bad. Pretty big issue there.

I wouldn’t call it bad without Eichel. It’s Matthews and a bunch of 1B centers. It’s not as if Larkin can’t outplay Barkov in a one-off game. It is worse, but the drop-off is the difference between a 1A center and a 1B center. This is one roster spot.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I wouldn’t call it bad without Eichel. It’s Matthews and a bunch of 1B centers. It’s not as if Larkin can’t outplay Barkov in a one-off game. It is worse, but the drop-off is the difference between a 1A center and a 1B center. This is one roster spot.

I mean yeah obviously not bad players but when we are talking about this level of hockey it is a pretty substantial drop in quality and it filters down the lineup. Now I still think USA without a healthy Eichel has a chance but things obviously get a hell of a lot harder and fall substantially more on Matthews carrying the load.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I mean yeah obviously not bad players but when we are talking about this level of hockey it is a pretty substantial drop in quality and it filters down the lineup. Now I still think USA without a healthy Eichel has a chance but things obviously get a hell of a lot harder and fall substantially more on Matthews carrying the load.

I don’t disagree that it’s worse on paper, and statistically a team has a better chance with a better roster, but I think all of us are over-discussing this. It’s a short tournament. If the Swedish PP is 50% or the Russian PK is 100%, they probably win. All of the top teams have a chance, and it’s a matter of which country comes together for two weeks and which countries don’t.