GDT: Predators@Leafs 7:30 PM SN

[ACC1224]

The next game is Saturday. But Daisy's saying because there are so few back to backs remaining, we might as well throw him into a few games that are not back-to-back situations in order to rest Andersen a little more for the playoffs. And I agree. I want them to keep being competitive, but at this point the playoffs are all but a certainty. No sense burning him out on somewhat meaningless games when we can rest him and have him at full power for the playoffs.

I doubt he's tired, he should be a well conditioned athlete.
He was off how many days last weekend and played half a game on Monday.

 

[Alerion]

I doubt he's tired, he should be a well conditioned athlete.
He was off how many days last weekend and played half a game on Monday.

He's faced the most shots in the league. Rest wouldn't hurt.

 

[ACC1224]

He's faced the most shots in the league. Rest wouldn't hurt.

Maybe I'm missing something but why are we assuming he's tired?
He's played 2 and 1/2 games since the All Star break, if he needs a rest now no chance he can play every 2nd night in the playoffs.

 

[Tall Morty]

What about giving Andersen the night off on Saturday, gives him a nice 4 day rest between starts against two top teams.

No, I'm going to that game and if they don't win, I will cry.

I doubt he's tired, he should be a well conditioned athlete.
He was off how many days last weekend and played half a game on Monday.

That's a fair point. I often wonder how much rest athletes really need. In the end, only Andersen really knows how much rest he needs, but I doubt he'd ever say anything.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm really looking forward to tonight. Nashville is one of the top teams in the league with excellent depth throughout.
This is a great opportunity to make a statement, considering the last top team they played (Boston) resulted in the Leafs laying a huge egg.

Yup. Babcock said he wanted the players to send Lou a message and as I said the other day, so far the message is that we're not on the same tier as Boston and we can play pond hockey with Anaheim. Not many opportunities left before the TDL to send that message so as they say, time's a tickin'.

I don't know how many times I've read here that trading JVR would send the wrong message to the team. On the other hand, if we don't pick it up tout suite then "may as well trade JVR" is the message they're sending to Lou. JMHO.

Here's hoping we look like contenders and kick their butts tonight. GLG!

 

[Gary Nylund]

That's a fair point. I often wonder how much rest athletes really need. In the end, only Andersen really knows how much rest he needs, but I doubt he'd ever say anything.

That is indeed an interesting question. I have no idea myself but I would think if there was ever a time to err on side of giving a guy extra rest, then it's now as no matter what we do from here on in, we'll almost certainly finish 3rd so may as well rest the guy.

And I'm sure you're right about Andersen, it's a rare case when any pro athlete says he'd rather rest than play.

 

[ACC1224]

No, I'm going to that game and if they don't win, I will cry.




That's a fair point. I often wonder how much rest athletes really need. In the end, only Andersen really knows how much rest he needs, but I doubt he'd ever say anything.

IMO, too much rest for a goalie can be a bad thing.

 

[Daisy Jane]

The next game is Saturday. But Daisy's saying because there are so few back to backs remaining, we might as well throw him into a few games that are not back-to-back situations in order to rest Andersen a little more for the playoffs. And I agree. I want them to keep being competitive, but at this point the playoffs are all but a certainty. No sense burning him out on somewhat meaningless games when we can rest him and have him at full power for the playoffs.

thank you.
if it were me. these would be the games that Andy should play
Bolts, Jackets, Penguins, Bruins, Lightning, Capitals (Outdoor Game), Penguins, Bolts.
(some of those are saturday night some are not)

McBackup would get the Sabres, the Sens, the Canadiens, etc. (I think the stars as well).

 

[ShaneFalco]

Yup. Babcock said he wanted the players to send Lou a message and as I said the other day, so far the message is that we're not on the same tier as Boston and we can play pond hockey with Anaheim. Not many opportunities left before the TDL to send that message so as they say, time's a tickin'.

I don't know how many times I've read here that trading JVR would send the wrong message to the team. On the other hand, if we don't pick it up tout suite then "may as well trade JVR" is the message they're sending to Lou. JMHO.

Here's hoping we look like contenders and kick their butts tonight. GLG!

It's interesting.....over the last little while Babcock has made a few comments about not being able to fit everyone in (ie Komarov Bozak JVR), putting pressure on Lou, how a team has moved on from some players.....

 

[ACC1224]

thank you.
if it were me. these would be the games that Andy should play
Bolts, Jackets, Penguins, Bruins, Lightning, Capitals (Outdoor Game), Penguins, Bolts.
(some of those are saturday night some are not)

McBackup would get the Sabres, the Sens, the Canadiens, etc. (I think the stars as well).

Do any teams do this when they have a clear #1 goalie? (genuinely curious)

 

[Budsfan]

 

[Gary Nylund]

IMO, too much rest for a goalie can be a bad thing.

Too much rest for any pro athlete can be a bad thing. Considering Andersen's workload though, I don't think that's anywhere close to being a concern. I agree it's something to keep in mind though, giving him a bit more rest before the playoffs makes sense but you don't want to overdo it either.

 

[Gary Nylund]

He's confirmed healthy, awesome!

 

[OVO16]

Doesnt Soshnikov's conditioning stint end soon? What happens then?

 

[Daisy Jane]

Do any teams do this when they have a clear #1 goalie? (genuinely curious)

no clue. but i'm looking at this at a "17 point buffer" vs. "clear #1 goalie" debate.

 

[Cor]

Doesnt Soshnikov's conditioning stint end soon? What happens then?

Either Kapanen is sent down or Leivo/Martin/Soshnikov is traded/waived.

I believe Shilton said the plan was for Sosh to play 3-4 AHL games, so we are looking at his stint ending the 10th or 11th

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

i hope Kapanen stays on the team. I think the fact that Babcock is so intent on keeping him in the lineup over Martin means we're seeing him stay. Martin/Leivo/Sosh are going to be gone I think

 

[ACC1224]

no clue. but i'm looking at this at a "17 point buffer" vs. "clear #1 goalie" debate.

fair enough...I'd be pretty surprised if he sits any games he would normally play, maybe the last week of the season but not this early.

 

[Cor]

i hope Kapanen stays on the team. I think the fact that Babcock is so intent on keeping him in the lineup over Martin means we're seeing him stay. Martin/Leivo/Sosh are going to be gone I think

Oh, I’d say there is a 5% chance Kapanen go down, just because it’s the path of least resistance.

I’m gonna assume Soshnikov is dealt for a 3rd or 4th round pick

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Oh, I’d say there is a 5% chance Kapanen go down, just because it’s the path of least resistance.

I’m gonna assume Soshnikov is dealt for a 3rd or 4th round pick

yeah I think Sosh and Leivo are done for sure. Martin might stay due to his role on the team and his contract being tough to move

 

[X66]

I wish I could see how this line-up would perform in fantasy land, but it would be a interesting look IMHO.

Hyman-Matthews-Kapanen
JVR-Nylander-Brown
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Soshnikov-Moore-Leivo
Martin

 

[Cor]

yeah I think Sosh and Leivo are done for sure. Martin might stay due to his role on the team and his contract being tough to move

By Babcock’s comments, I’m not sure Martin has a role on the team anymore.

I can see the Leafs dealing him with a guy like Sosh/Leivo or a unsigned prospect like Mattinen or Middleton or Greenway for a late pick.

Heck, the fact that. Chris Johnston said the Leafs are talking to other teams about him speaks volumes IMO

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

By Babcock’s comments, I’m not sure Martin has a role on the team anymore.

I can see the Leafs dealing him with a guy like Sosh/Leivo or a unsigned prospect like Mattinen or Middleton or Greenway for a late pick.

Heck, the fact that. Chris Johnston said the Leafs are talking to other teams about him speaks volumes IMO

good point. Frankly I think Clune could take on his role if necessary, but I'd love to see us build as skilled a 4th line as possible

 

[Coachcorner]

Too much rest for any pro athlete can be a bad thing. Considering Andersen's workload though, I don't think that's anywhere close to being a concern. I agree it's something to keep in mind though, giving him a bit more rest before the playoffs makes sense but you don't want to overdo it either.

Of course it's not. Every great goalie, professional athele like brodeur roy etc vernon belfour potvin and all played everytime they got the chance. Some play even back to backs because they are so good. Some goalies play 70 games per season and they want to, they do not get tired. They don't skate at all, only players skate. Goalies stand still and move some. They do not get tired, never. They WANT TO PLAY every night. Andersen will play like sucka till his mind is gone, just like every other good number uno goalie. I know ice hockey, having played it. Goalies do not get tired. They play all the time and stand still. Players move and skate. Only skating tires people the dirt out. Know this.

 

[Budsfan]