pjbth said:Yeah look at all those slick first rounder russians this season!!!......Oh wait there weren't any
Don't forget about the slick second rounder russians this year too!!!
pjbth said:Yeah look at all those slick first rounder russians this season!!!......Oh wait there weren't any
Egil said:The point I was TRYING to make is that we still have not seen the best Hockey in their careers yet. Today, Kovolchuk is better. In 5 years? Kovolchuk will PROBABLY be better, but, even without injuries, that is not guaranteed.
SubNova said:I think I know what this is all about; it’s like those guys that buy big trucks to offset their lack of size in other places. Canadians are pissed off that they don’t have good prospects while there are a number of European prospects especially Russian prospects. If you take out a guy like Heatley because he wasn’t borne in Canada you are left with Crosby and a few goalies. After this year you will have only goalies to hype up.
jmelm said:I think that offensively, Malkin and Spezza have similar potential. Both are EXTRAORDINARY playmakers, etc......
But the reason why I think Malkin will be the better player is because he has the ability to dominate games physically that Spezza cannot match. Spezza can beat defenders by going around them with all sorts of crazy moves and is a strong hockey player. But Malkin can go right through defenders and knock them on their ***. Malkin should be able to dominate the game physically like Thornton, Sundin, Allison (before injury), but will have playmaking ability that exceeds them all. It's for this reason that I believe Malkin will be the more dominant player offensively.
Malkin, Spezza and Crosby should be the top 3 playmakers in the NHL in the years to come. What will be interesting is to see the goal production of these 3 players. Malkin and Spezza are both pass-first kind of guys, and with their playmaking ability, rightfully so. But I think Malkin might also have higher-goal scoring upside than Spezza for the reason I mentioned above, as well as his superior skating ability. I have no idea what kind of goal vs. assist totals Crosby will put up.
Malkin does have the potential, maybe, to be as good as or better than Crosby, but Spezza clearly does not, IMO, and that is no slight to him. So all this in mind, I have to think Malkin is clearly a step-up on Spezza, not just offensively, but all around.
But as the Russians know, Chechenya produces the better terrorists.<Mr Jiggyfly> said:The US produces better NFL players than Canada and Russia...
RazorRamon12 said:that is a nice analysis. except you conveniently failed to mention that you have hardly ever seen malkin play, except for the WJCs and a few clips here and there.
so considering that fact, and that u are a pens fan. I now have no reason to think that ur post was anything other than the homer in u coming out.
next time, dont try to hide the fact u havent seen malkin play very much
Coming from the homer who said:Sting004 said:That's pretty much bang on in my opinion.
Sting004 said:Spezza is more than likely going to be a much better player than Malkin. It's just the way it is...
Slick Nick said:Malkin is magic. Spezza dosen't have 1/100 of Malkin's hockey sens, and let's not talk about the hands... Malkin by a mile.
LOL,holy ****!!SubNova said:I think I know what this is all about; it’s like those guys that buy big trucks to offset their lack of size in other places. Canadians are pissed off that they don’t have good prospects while there are a number of European prospects especially Russian prospects. If you take out a guy like Heatley because he wasn’t borne in Canada you are left with Crosby and a few goalies. After this year you will have only goalies to hype up.
He's only 14 posts in!!! I can't wait for what's coming down the pipe from this guyWVpens said:I'd stop now if I were you.
Man, you're so smart. You just convinced me that Europeans are gods. I salute your higness.SubNova said:I think I know what this is all about; it’s like those guys that buy big trucks to offset their lack of size in other places. Canadians are pissed off that they don’t have good prospects while there are a number of European prospects especially Russian prospects. If you take out a guy like Heatley because he wasn’t borne in Canada you are left with Crosby and a few goalies. After this year you will have only goalies to hype up.
For once, I agree with you about goons. We shouldn't need any. No team should rely on goonery on any occasion. That mentality is Pejorative Slured. Despite that aspect, I still find the NHL more entertaining than any other league in the world. Euros can't fool us about their leagues anymore. Due to the lockout, we've all seen games from various European leagues (except the RSL) and frankly, they are BORING. Players who have played in Europe all come back saying that they won't complain about the clutching and grabbing in the NHL anymore because it's so much worse over there. No more telling us how Europe is so much faster and lies like that. It's just not true.SubNova said:Canadian hockey needs to stop projecting its self on the NHL, if you don’t like action and scoring then watch your own league. I don’t want NHL to end up being all about getting a player hurt via fights or cheap hits. This is skilled sport I don’t see how teams have two goons in each lineup just to fight. Our why a top end player needs a goon on his line just incase.
Ismellofhockey said:For some reason a lot of Russians on this site (or maybe always the same, but they're loud like there's a lot of them) speculate wildly about the worth of Russian players, about how much Frolov is God, Kovalev was better than Mario, and now "Russian player is God II: the Malkin" is coming to threads near you.
Vincent_TheGreat said:wow, what a homer!
I agree,Spezza has a dandy shot and i think he should/will develop into a more potent goal scorer when he adds some confidence.He needs to start becoming more agressive in his play from the blueline in(everywhere really) and then he'll take off.He's going to be given every opportuinity to suceed this year so we should get a good read this season in terms of his future all around offensive abilities.But like you said,he'll most likely always be a better play-maker then goal scorer.He has wonderful ice vision and i think he just fancies himself more of a playmaker then goal scorer by definition.NyQuil said:I've watched Spezza quite closely since being introduced to the NHL, and I can already safely say that there has been no better playmaker on the Senators in franchise history than this guy.
He has vision and a deft passing touch that is unequalled by anyone who has ever played on the team, and he's only put in 1 1/2 seasons.
While he can roof it with the best of them, and has a pretty wicked snap shot, Spezza's strengths are his playmaking abilities and I expect it'll be the assist column that sees his greatest contribution to the league.