Think we can take advantage of the teams near the cap ceiling and pick off a couple of real A+ players.... But in return the selling teams will want low salary contract prospects so we're talking of perlini, martinook, merkerley and Samuelson to name a few so it's a double edged sword
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Think we can take advantage of the teams near the cap ceiling and pick off a couple of real A+ players.... But in return the selling teams will want low salary contract prospects so we're talking of perlini, martinook, merkerley and Samuelson to name a few so it's a double edged sword
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I think it would and he should garner less than he's currently getting, but can we afford him?
They must have gotten a little bit of Colorado's newest cash crop in the trade and lit some up.
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lolwut we've already played over 75% of the season, and only have 60 points. When Maloney and co. mentioned similar comments in the post-deadline videos, I assumed it was just lip service for the casual fans, which is understandable. Now, I'm honestly starting to believe they think they're going to make a push for the playoffs, which is a little disconcerting.
Maloney & Company have to say that to keep fans showing up. They deep down know they are out of it. I mean how in the hell are the Yotes going to win 15+ of the next 19 games? And with this roster! It would be the great comeback in the history of sports.
The flaw I've always found with this line of thinking is it assumes the fans are paying attention to random quotes from Maloney & Co. Most fans listening that closely probably know what's going on anyway.
I'm not saying they should do the opposite and go around saying how terrible they are trying to be but just play it closer to the vest. It would be less insulting.
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I really think they believe it or want to believe it. Remember how last year was a playoff team on paper? They were genuinely shocked when it was a train wreck!
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Right. That sort of blind optimism might play to the casual fan who only gets his Coyotes news on sports radio. People who actively follow the team aren't going to be fooled. But it's only the people who follow the team that are going to ever hear that clip. I really think they believe they can make chicken salad from chicken #. "It worked once, therefor always". It's their motto.
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Those folks don't exist because (a) Phoenix sports radio doesn't talk about the Coyotes except occasionally in the hourly news updates and when they're forced to talk to Doan, Tippett, or Maloney, and (b) the "casual" Phoenix fan doesn't bother to go to games or listen to sports radio, they just catch a bit of a game on the TV.
Maloney was speaking directly to the room and the players, and more specifically to Shane Doan. Doan is having a career year and Maloney is terrified that he's going to prejudice him from resigning with the Coyotes if he doesn't retire. It's why he didn't trade "character" guys like Chipchura and Grossmann, too. The last thing Maloney wanted to convey to the players was that he was going to give up on the season and maximize assets, because while that appeals greatly to us who have no skin in the game outside of fandom and ticket purchases, that does not appeal at all to the guys who do this as a job.
Maloney wants his room to stay positive, partially because of the young guys so they won't fall into bad habits and attitudes, but mostly because the quality of the room is literally one of GMDM's only marketable assets to future FA and prospects who he needs to sign to contracts. So he maintains the fiction that they're still competitive even though it's clearly no longer the case.
I'm interested in Hamhuis but I don't see where he fits. Are we playing him on the second pairing LHD? I think we need more offense from that slot and I don't think Hamhuis can provide it. Also doesn't fit as the 3rd pairing LHD because we're already overstocked there with KConn, Tinordi, and Dahlbeck.
I'd love to add both Shattenkirk (Hanzal+Stone) and Yandle (UFA).
OEL - Shattenkirk
Yandle - Murphy
Tinordi - Michalek
KConn
No real preferences yet for a UFA 2nd line RW.
I'd like to see both Perron and/or Purcell here. Experienced wings that play a responsible game. Both are also RHS.
Those folks don't exist because (a) Phoenix sports radio doesn't talk about the Coyotes except occasionally in the hourly news updates and when they're forced to talk to Doan, Tippett, or Maloney, and (b) the "casual" Phoenix fan doesn't bother to go to games or listen to sports radio, they just catch a bit of a game on the TV.
Maloney was speaking directly to the room and the players, and more specifically to Shane Doan. Doan is having a career year and Maloney is terrified that he's going to prejudice him from resigning with the Coyotes if he doesn't retire. It's why he didn't trade "character" guys like Chipchura and Grossmann, too. The last thing Maloney wanted to convey to the players was that he was going to give up on the season and maximize assets, because while that appeals greatly to us who have no skin in the game outside of fandom and ticket purchases, that does not appeal at all to the guys who do this as a job.
Maloney wants his room to stay positive, partially because of the young guys so they won't fall into bad habits and attitudes, but mostly because the quality of the room is literally one of GMDM's only marketable assets to future FA and prospects who he needs to sign to contracts. So he maintains the fiction that they're still competitive even though it's clearly no longer the case.
Totally Agree. Trading Gordon/Chip/Grossman for 6th or 7th round picks would have sent the wrong message to the team. Those late picks amount to nothing anyway. Culture is way more important and very difficult to change when it sets in the wrong way. This is why even though the Oilers picked up McJesus, maybe the best player drafted in the last 10 years, and the team is not any better materially point wise. That culture will take a while to change. We don't want to be in that position as a team with 7 rookies and more coming. Most fans on this board want us to have losses the next 20 games so we can draft Mathews. if we tank that hard, it will not be fixed by mathews, it would kill our culture.
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Oh God, don't bring back the Tippett and Maloney are infallible otherwise we'd be the Oilers arguement. Fun fact, our defense is worse than the Oilers.
Unless they lower their price I don't think the NYR 1st is worth enough to be the main piece. They'd want Dvorak.
I feel that part of the reason we were always left wanting more with Boedker was because his development curve was screwed up. He should've spent more time in junior and then, if necessary, the AHL after that. He was rushed. I think Drouin has been rushed as well. He came to the NHL too early. By the time the draft comes around, it'll have been nearly 6 months since he's played a hockey game, and a time of critical development years. Skilled player no doubt, but I'd prefer to pass.
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Think of how much better the Oilers would be with Chip and Grossman, though. A guy like Gordon would probably put them over the top.
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I should probably type in blue font when I'm pouring on the sarcasm... On the otherhand, I'd be typing in blue font a lot...
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