J17ster said:Combinin into one monster draft personally i don't like. Not only does it mean that some players will not get drafted when they should but you are givin the worse teams even more high end talent as they pick early.
PecaFan said:What? You've got it backwards. Combining gives worse teams *less* talent, and the better teams more. For example, imagine a team consistently a the 10 spot. In a split draft, they get two #10 quality players. In a combined draft, they get a #5 quality player (1a,1b,2a,2b,3a,3b,4a,4b,5a,5b)
Similarly, imagine the worst team in the league, they have the first overall pick this year, and they would have been equally bad next year, and probably would have had the #1 pick again. With two drafts, they get *two* #1 players. With a combined draft, they get a #1, and a #16.
That's assuming the drafts are roughly equal in strength, but the principle still applies even if one is stronger.
J17ster said:No it does give worse teams more talent. Say the Caps had #1, they pick Crosby right then they have #31 pick and they pick a guy who would gone around #15 overall in his draft year.
The Caps get #1 and a guy who in a normal year would go #15. The Caps get double the talent in theory then they would usually get. That is unfair.
go kim johnsson said:Doug Armstrong is on the FAN right now and he says his understanding is that if there is no season, there is no draft. (like I said before)
Makaveli said:Equal lottery chance for every team, or make them all open game.
Jaded-Fan said:You misread the question. No season, no draft until a new contract is signed, at which point, immediately after, there will be a draft. This question addresses that moment.
Chili said:No new cba = no draft, I can pull out the Daly quote again if you like.
Any future draft will be spelled out in the cba, so you can only speculate on how it will go down, who drafts where, etc.
For all we know it this point, it could be 3 rounds.
I imagine that if and when the season is officially cancelled, this topic and the corresponding speculation will run rampant. Maybe Eklund will be able to provide some insight.
go kim johnsson said:A scenario I heard somewhere (might have been on the FAN) that if there was deal signied after the draft, they would have the draft in like November, but didn't say how they would do it.
I say do the draft in January or February with the combined point totals from the 2003-04 season and the potential current season, combine them together and do a weighted lottery, with the #30 team having an .01% chance at the first pick, and moving up proper increments.
Jaded-Fan said:Exactly . . . which is what I am doing with this thread, speculating what the new CBA will call for. Do not get all technical with me people, I get confused enough as it is . . .
PepNCheese said:It wouldn't be fair to use past standings in any way.
Acceptable solutions to me would be:
-combine the 2005 eligibles with 2006 draft.
-holding the 2005 draft immediately when hockey returns, using a totally random order.
-make ALL 2005-eligible draftees free agents, giving all teams the equal opportunity to sign them.
KallioWeHardlyKnewYe said:I'm with Jaded. Someone please explain why a team like Detroit deserves an equal shot as a team like Pitt?
Sure, Detroit COULD be god-awful and get the first pick if a season were played and Pitt COULD come out of nowhere and win the cup. But anything could happen in the COULD scenario.
The question shouldn't be what could happen. It should be what likely could happen. Is that 100% acurate? Absolutely not, but without a season, you're not going to get a 100% acurate draft order. You have to get as close as you can.
Assuming Pitt would be worse than Detroit is the starting point. Assuming Pitt and Detroit are the same is not.
Jaded-Fan said:Not just Pitt . . .but Chicago and Phoenix are not going anywhere soon either . . . among some other teams.