GDT: PO #4 | Penguins at FLYERS | Wed., April 18, 2018, 7:00 p.m. ET | NBCSN, CBC, TVAS, NBCSP, ATTSN-PT

[Jtown]

He's done it before, so yes. If he were playing on a team that isn't being handled by an immolated tire.

that year plus this year of his 4 linemates coots has been his best. How have those two done against crosby this go around? I know you are not one to criticize giroux , so let me ask you this. What would the circumstances have to be before you called him out for having a bad game or series?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I just want to say to all the smug Penguins fans reading this, please go **** yourselves.

 

[Magua]

We would have been better off missing the playoffs.

Unless Dave Hakstol is fired because of this, we're just as well off pretending that Blues pick is our pick.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

hakshell didn't work i spoke too soon. fookin hak

 

[TheKingPin]

It is not because of Couts. It is because of back breaking goals allowed by a mediocre goalie.

They started the game playing like shit unlike last game when I would agree with you.

 

[Fire Hakstol]

I also think it is time Hextall takes some of the blame. He has been the GM for over 4 years and is responsible for a lot of this mess.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

We would have been better off missing the playoffs.

I disagree.

Provy, TK, NP, Oskar, and Sanheim all got to get the nerves out.

And they will remember how awful this felt.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Unless Dave Hakstol is fired because of this, we're just as well off pretending that Blues pick is our pick.

Ron is about to do nothing productive towards correcting the issues with this franchise.

 

[Magua]

Public enemy #1?

I don't dislike Crosby 1/50th as much as I dislike Dave Hakstol. I like watching good hockey. He's a f***ing great player.

 

[Beef Invictus]

that year plus this year of his 4 linemates coots has been his best. How have those two done against crosby this go around? I know you are not one to criticize giroux , so let me ask you this. What would the circumstances have to be before you called him out for having a bad game or series?

He has had a bad series. I never stated otherwise.


I'm arguing against giving up on him, because we have more than a few examples of "rotten" cores and players suddenly being good with a coach who knows how to use them.

I mean hell, it's not like he was helped at all in the first 3 games playing with Raffl, who killed all offensive pressure every time he got the puck.

 

[AaronTrieu]

I disagree.

Provy, TK, NP, Oskar, and Sanheim all got to get the nerves out.

And they will remember how awful this felt.

And remember how badly the vets and leaders let them down

 

[Rebels57]

We are outmatched in every way against Pitt. There is not one area where we gave an edge.

Goalie? Nope.
Defense? Nope.
Forward elite? Nope
Forward depth? Nope
Coaching? Hahahaha
PK? Nope
PP? Nope

I voted for a 5 series win for Pitt. in the poll. This was expected by me unless Neuvirth was our starter in Game 1. I felt he had the ability to steal some games. But with Elliott and Neuvirth? Nope.

And tonight without Couts? Come on.

Im watching an outgunned at every position Avalanche team give Nashville a fight in every game.

Its not about losing. Its about HOW they are losing.

There is simply no fight in this team.

Ive said it many times before, but if Hexy wont fire Haklol, then I hope Dave Scott fires both. Hell throw Holmgren in there too. All 3 can go if they prefer to be loyal to each other instead of the team.

 

[Tripod]

I voted Pens in 6, not sure many would of expected thisnlevel,of compete tho, this is embarassing

It is. But that is the type of thing we need to show how far away we really are. And how bad Hak is. And the goaltending. And the depth.

But as I said before, Hextall is building us to win on the backs of the new core. Trading Schenn was a huge sign of this. I just wish we had a coach to played the hell out of kids this year, so next year would be better.

And remember, LA had a 101 season, then a 96 point season before adding Richards and Carter. We are not ready to add those last pieces yet because all the kids are not even here yet.

 

[bennysflyers16]

I also think it is time Hextall takes some of the blame. He has been the GM for over 4 years and is responsible for a lot of this mess.

Coach FAIL
Goaltenders FAIL

Team that put forth the effort in this series. FAIL

Drafting A

Too bad being a good GM you need to do all

 

[JojoTheWhale]

2005 vs the Sabres wasn’t even this bad.

But we're not at 2002 Senators level yet. It can always get worse.

 

[Jray42]

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

They started the game playing like **** unlike last game when I would agree with you.

Every game this series but one they were kneecapped by back breaking goals. Not just today, unfortunately.

 

[Redpath]

But we aren't actually any closer. We are still getting blown out in the first round. We have young talent, but we still have the utterly garbage veterans holding the team back, and new ones have been getting added annually. We still have a complete loser as a coach. Goaltending has regressed and there isn't any solution on the horizon.

In theory we should be closer. Yet we aren't. And much of that lays on the GM's decisions. As I've said, we are at a tipping point for Hextall where we find out if he's going to take us any further.


Edit: How are they horrible examples? Did it or did it not take them over 6 years to build Cup winners?

To go off this point, I am not sure anyone in this board faults Hextall for his restocking off the cupboard and overseeing a few potential successful drafts.

With that being said, it is completely naive to believe Hextall has the ability to evaluate prospect readiness, NHL talent, and coaching staffs. In other words, phase 2 of the rebuild that we are perpetually waiting for.

 

[Pelle1985]

read lol

 

[bennysflyers16]

Im watching an outgunned at every position Avalanche team give Nashville a fight in every game.

Its not about losing. Its about HOW they are losing.

There is simply no fight in this team.

Ive said it many times before, but if Hexy wont fire Haklol, then I hope Dave Scott fires both. Hell throw Holmgren in there too. All 3 can go if they prefer to be loyal to each other instead of the team.

With a goalie that Hexy chose Elliot and Neuvy over as well.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

 

[Fire Hakstol]

I can only imagine how angry Ed Snider would have been after this game.

 

[Lurch]

Hakstol and Hextall are making me dislike hockey.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

But we're not at 2002 Senators level yet. It can always get worse.

That was terrible, but we've never been horrible in back to back series. Shameful.

 

[Rebels57]

Play of the game by Matt Read. Wish I was joking.