Plans, Trades, and Automobiles: Fixing the Winged Wheel

[Bench]

Here's our general off-season discussion thread. Put your trade ideas, musings, and other such waxing here.

If there's something specific reported in the media, i.e. Kesler announcing his trade list, that can have it's own thread. Other material can go here.

Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic. Mantha is neither a sea creature nor a Godzilla monster. Discuss.

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[Zetterberg4Captain]

after rewading hollands comments yesterday i hope he too is just posturing

if not, god i hope boyle shuns detroit and signs elsewhere(i actually hope he does anyhow)

 

[InjuredChoker]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/06/detroit_red_wings_hoping_to_si.html

some comments from kenny. has gotten calls from GM's with some 'interesting names'... khan mentions that they are still after goal scoring winger and top 4 D who is preferably RH.

fwiw mentions the development of young kids and how excited they are mentions tatar by name.. indicating that he isn't a trade piece.. maybe.

not a lot of options there. i hope they inquire hemsky even if he passes on empty nets too often.

mckenzie said on TSN radio that LA wants gabby to take a hometown discount or it won't work.. but if he's not willing to do that, i guess the numbers won't work for holland either.

 

[Frk It]

Detroit Red Wings hoping to sign backup goaltender Jonas Gustavsson to one-year deal

 

[Chance on Chance]

Detroit Red Wings hoping to sign backup goaltender Jonas Gustavsson to one-year deal

1 year would be perfect. Allows Mzarek to play a lot of games this year in GR. Big if is health though, I'd rather Mzarek not be bouncing around between the NHL and AHL and on the bench

 

[SoupNazi]

So given the remarks Holland made yesterday that six of our seven defensemen are set, it seems that all but Quincey are going to be back. Personally, I would rather keep Quincey and drop Kindl or Lashoff.

 

[SoupNazi]

Detroit Red Wings hoping to sign backup goaltender Jonas Gustavsson to one-year deal

That would be perfect. It allows Mrazek to hopefully actually start in GR rather than riding the pine in Detroit due to injuries. That assumes, of course, that Monster can stay healthy.

 

[Frk It]

That would be perfect. It allows Mrazek to hopefully actually start in GR rather than riding the pine in Detroit due to injuries. That assumes, of course, that Monster can stay healthy.

I think we run into the same problem as last year, unfortunately.

 

[Frk It]

So given the remarks Holland made yesterday that six of our seven defensemen are set, it seems that all but Quincey are going to be back. Personally, I would rather keep Quincey and drop Kindl or Lashoff.

Too bad we can't drop all 3 of them and fill the 3 spots with kids/free agents.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Too bad we can't drop all 3 of them and fill the 3 spots with kids/free agents.

might lose my last faith in the guy if even one of them is on the opening night roster.

 

[Frk It]

might lose my last faith in the guy if even one of them is on the opening night roster.

If I was a betting man, Id put some money down Kindl is. Hope to god I'm wrong though.

 

[SoupNazi]

If I was a betting man, Id put some money down Kindl is. Hope to god I'm wrong though.

I hope he is being intentionally close-to-the-vest about his plans.

 

[InjuredChoker]

If I was a betting man, Id put some money down Kindl is. Hope to god I'm wrong though.

well him i can understand if he can't be traded and i doubt other teams would be interested to scout his abilities on eating nachos.

and he can still breakout, right, any minute, ok?

right?

 

[Frk It]

"I'm moving along slow to keep our options open," Holland said. "We'll see what's out there via trade. But we feel good about our team, and our fallback position is our kids.

www.freep.com/article/20140605/SPORTS05/306050048/detroit-red-wings-ken-holland

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

we will keep kindl and waive lashoff

we will call up ouellet and sign salo

we will struggle to finish 8th in te east and be bounced in 5 games by the bruins in rd 1

rinse and repeat for the next 3-5 years

 

[InjuredChoker]

we will keep kindl and waive lashoff

we will call up ouellet and sign salo

we will struggle to finish 8th in te east and be bounced in 5 games by the bruins in rd 1

rinse and repeat for the next 3-5 years

i agree except i think they miss the playoffs somewhere down the road in that period.

 

[SoupNazi]

we will keep kindl and waive lashoff

we will call up ouellet and sign salo

we will struggle to finish 8th in te east and be bounced in 5 games by the bruins in rd 1

rinse and repeat for the next 3-5 years

I'd rather sign Boyle.

 

[Frk It]

I'd rather sign Boyle.

If you want a RH d-man to come here and give you 35-40 pts, your best bet is Boyle. Love it or hate it.

Holland said he won't trade two good young kids for a 30 something year old. Teams won't give us a 20 something top 3 RH d man without robbing our assets.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I'd rather sign Boyle.

boyle will not sign here if he dosent feel the team is a legit contender, why would he as he will be the 1 short term cheaper UFA dman(niskanen being the real #1)

and the team that got embarassed 4 weeks ago plus salo that datsyuk and zetterberg said was not good enough will not entice him

i hope i am wrong but those comments stink of waiving lashoff, promoting a kid and signing a cheap crappy vet dman like salo and likely bringing back alffie

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[Zetterberg4Captain]

If you want a RH d-man to come here and give you 35-40 pts, your best bet is Boyle. Love it or hate it.

Holland said he won't trade two good young kids for a 30 something year old. Teams won't give us a 20 something top 3 RH d man without robbing our assets.

what is robbing our assets?

is tatar plus smith/puilkinnen and a 1st robbing us?

or is nyquist plus mantha robbing us?

the first is clealry not while the later clearly is.

 

[Frk It]

boyle will not sign here if he dosent feel the team is a legit contender

Where did you get this from?

He's been linked to two teams, Ottawa and Tampa. Ottawa missed the playoffs last year. Tampa made it as far as we did.

Haven't heard anything about Boyle only wanting to go to a contender.

 

[Chance on Chance]

If you want a RH d-man to come here and give you 35-40 pts, your best bet is Boyle. Love it or hate it.

Holland said he won't trade two good young kids for a 30 something year old. Teams won't give us a 20 something top 3 RH d man without robbing our assets.

I'd bet he signs with home town Ottawa who could use a Dman like him or back in Tampa.

 

[Frk It]

what is robbing our assets?
.

What it would take to pull off a trade to get a mid 20s stud top 3 RH D. Would cost an arm and a leg. Maybe two of each.

 

[InjuredChoker]

i'd rather play one of the kids than just sign boyle.

 

[Frk It]

i'd rather play one of the kids than just sign boyle.

Disagree.

But I'd rather play kids than go Salo, Stralman, etc.