Plan B for Fixing Penn Station Would Wrap Madison Square Garden in Glass

[JRinNYC]

So they finally reopened the Penn Station 32nd Street and 7th Ave entrance
New York’s Penn Station revamps major entrance ahead of hectic holiday travel rush

Can't wait for the construction on Penn 2 to finish. Leaving MSG is a death trap waiting to happen. Slowly those hallways are opening up, but 7th Ave is still a mess with all the scaffolding.

 

[nyrmetros]

Yikes!

 

[BroadwayStorm]

Can we move it out of NYC too? Pop it in a nice open piece of land in Westchester, the less I have to go into NYC the better. Thanks!

Great way to kill the garden.

I was at Moynihan station for the first time since it opened. Despite living less than 50 blocks away. I was not impressed. It was nice but rather symplistic. I guess the building architecture limits what they can do in there. The lack of seating is idiotic beyond belief. I notice they did update Penn Station some but its still a turd.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

Great way to kill the garden.

I was at Moynihan station for the first time since it opened. Despite living less than 50 blocks away. I was not impressed. It was nice but rather symplistic. I guess the building architecture limits what they can do in there. The lack of seating is idiotic beyond belief. I notice they did update Penn Station some but its still a turd.

The lack of seating is deliberate.

 

[JRinNYC]

Yikes!

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[JRinNYC]

The lack of seating is idiotic beyond belief

It's called Hostile architecture. Done on purpose so that homeless people don't camp there.

 

[sbjnyc]

Great way to kill the garden.

I was at Moynihan station for the first time since it opened. Despite living less than 50 blocks away. I was not impressed. It was nice but rather symplistic. I guess the building architecture limits what they can do in there. The lack of seating is idiotic beyond belief. I notice they did update Penn Station some but its still a turd.

It's a train station. There is a large waiting room with seating if you're waiting for a train. There is also seats by the food court. Not sure what you were expecting.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Putting the team in Westchester would be the most idiotic thing of all time

So it’s a good thing it’ll never happen

Also as others have said, the lack of seating in Moynihan is by design.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

Is there enough room for an arena where the Hotel Pennsylvania used to be?

 

[ecemleafs]

i liked moynihan the one time i took amtrak out of it.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

i liked moynihan the one time i took amtrak out of it.

Yeah, it's a huge improvement... but it's no Grand Central in terms of sexiness.

 

[frozenrubber]

Is there enough room for an arena where the Hotel Pennsylvania used to be?

15 Penn (or the more fun, PENN15) 1200 ft skyskraper was/is supposed to be built in that site. Now with Hotel Pennsylvania completely gone, construction was set to start in 2024.

However, Vornado has put a hold on the other Penn district redevelopment plans, just not sure if 15 Penn is on hold as well as it's not an ideal time to borrow (at least in the eyes of real estate developers who've had a endless buffet of cheap capital for over a decade).

 

[RosensRug]

It's a train station. There is a large waiting room with seating if you're waiting for a train. There is also seats by the food court. Not sure what you were expecting.

This has always cracked me up since Moynihan opened. One of the biggest complaints about Penn station was the homeless issue. Now we have a brand new station for Amtrak and LIRR commuters and its a problem that the homeless aren't all over the new station.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Putting the team in Westchester would be the most idiotic thing of all time

So it’s a good thing it’ll never happen

Also as others have said, the lack of seating in Moynihan is by design.

Put it in the suburbs so the people who used to live in the city when the crime was higher than it is now, but now live in the suburbs and think everything is dangerous, don’t have to go to the mythical death trap that is the city.

 

[JRinNYC]

Is there enough room for an arena where the Hotel Pennsylvania used to be?

Don’t think it’s large enough. Ideally if they would knock down the other half of the 34th and 33rd block and joined it just like what MSG does. Then you’d have plenty of space.

 

[nyrmetros]

The underground track system is what needs change and reconfiguration. Everything above is just a band-aid.

 

[nyrmetros]

Any further updates?

 

[nyrmetros]

Shelved Penn Station fixes could avoid $17 billion expansion — if transit agencies actually work together: Post investigation

The MTA and New Jersey Transit each prepared plans that collectively could double the number of trains Penn Station can fit, alleviating the need for a $17 billion terminal that would consume three…

nypost.com

 

[cwede]

wasn't sure where to share

 

[Machinehead]

So they finally reopened the Penn Station 32nd Street and 7th Ave entrance
New York’s Penn Station revamps major entrance ahead of hectic holiday travel rush

Can't wait for the construction on Penn 2 to finish. Leaving MSG is a death trap waiting to happen. Slowly those hallways are opening up, but 7th Ave is still a mess with all the scaffolding.

It's like 10:30 now when you get out of there after a 7:00 game.

 

[nyrmetros]

Any new Pennsylvania Station updates?

 

[Mike in Houston]

Any new Pennsylvania Station updates?

All I know is Rose Pizza is back.

 

[nyrmetros]

All I know is Rose Pizza is back.

What about Planet Smoothie?

 

[CasusBelli]

wasn't sure where to share

That thing is a maze.

 

[nyrmetros]

It sure is.