Phoenix LXVII; Route66 - Aftermath

Killion · Dec 18, 2012

From the 66 Stones album of the same name, with previous thread titles including 19th Nervous Breakdown, though featured only on the UK release. Mothers Little Helper, Lady Jane, Paint it Black....

Carry on...

Slashers98 · Dec 18, 2012

Route 666, the route that leads to nowhere! :handclap:

GuelphStormer · Dec 18, 2012

still the greatest rock and roll band ... ever :yo:

OthmarAmmann · Dec 18, 2012

ah, well. at least our favorite council member still fits in

saskganesh · Dec 18, 2012

I liked how manager Andrew Loog Oldham got a photography credit on that album.

Anyhow, any new non-news from the desert?

Fugu · Dec 18, 2012

Slashers98 said:
Route 666, the route that leads to nowhere!

"We're on the road to nowhere..."

--Talking Heads

checkerdome · Dec 18, 2012

Thomas L said:
ah, well. at least our favorite council member still fits in

Nice pic of Joyce.

berklon · Dec 18, 2012

preissingg said:
Nice pic of Joyce.

That's totally uncalled for. What did Mick ever do to you?

checkerdome · Dec 18, 2012

berklon said:
That's totally uncalled for. What did Mick ever do to you?

You're right.

I guess I just have a heart of stone.(Oh, no, no....)

kdb209 · Dec 18, 2012

MaskedSonja · Dec 18, 2012

kdb209 said:
The long and winding thread that leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that thread before it always leads me here
Leads me to your door

â€œNobody wants to be here and nobody wants to leave.â€
― Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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And, hey, why not, for completeness:

03-05-2010 NHL sues Jerry Moyes

Huh! How about that! When then did that happen? What was the result? :sarcasm:

Evil Doctor · Dec 18, 2012

Killion said:
From the 66 Stones album of the same name, with previous thread titles including 19th Nervous Breakdown, though featured only on the UK release. Mothers Little Helper, Lady Jane, Paint it Black....

Carry on...

Oh dear Lord, I actually have this album. On vinyl no less... :help:

mesamonster · Dec 18, 2012

Killion said:
From the 66 Stones album of the same name, with previous thread titles including 19th Nervous Breakdown, though featured only on the UK release. Mothers Little Helper, Lady Jane, Paint it Black....

Carry on...

Carry on all knowing all feeling Moderator, we are your people and we will follow your able lead!

madhi19 · Dec 18, 2012

kdb209 said:
The long and winding thread that leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that thread before it always leads me here
Leads me to your door

â€œNobody wants to be here and nobody wants to leave.â€
― Cormac McCarthy, The Road

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone...

calmdown · Dec 18, 2012

Watching the Glendale Workshop... Seriously, I don't like that Tindall guy answering to Norma Alvarez simple question about leguality of what they are doing... From a lawyer I would expect a yes or no answer but all he can say is... "In my opinion, I think that" and all evasives things like that... Never giving the facts... :shakehead

kdb209 · Dec 18, 2012

madhi19 said:
The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone...

And you still can't even make an obscure LOTR joke ...

kdb209 said:
madhi19 said:

The road goes on and on right from the door where it began....

Click to expand...

Courtesy of Parts XV and XXXIV:

The Thread goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Thread has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.

The Thread goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Thread has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.

Click to expand...

madhi19 said:
kdb209 said:

Courtesy of Parts XV and XXXIV:

Quote:
The Thread goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Thread has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.

The Thread goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Thread has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.

Click to expand...

Damn I can't even make an obscure LOTR joke somebody already beat me to it months if not years ago!

ajmidd12 · Dec 18, 2012

Evil Doctor said:
Oh dear Lord, I actually have this album. On vinyl no less...

Me too

vinyl's are making a comeback, didn't you know?

Is the workshop on right now?

OthmarAmmann · Dec 18, 2012

calmdown said:
From a lawyer I would expect a yes or no answer but all he can say is... "In my opinion, I think that" and all evasives things like that... Never giving the facts...

XYZ

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calmdown · Dec 18, 2012

Thomas L said:

Yes Thomas, i'm silly to watch those workshops

. But I thought I could learn something else about management of a city... But Mayor still making the blame on GJ deal, Alvarez trying to save jobs, empty room, always the same and now a break of 10 minutes and we had a show of local amators artists... I think I begin to understand how it work there... Notice that I don't accuse mayor or Alvarez, just that they don't have the power they should have. In my sense they are the only two rationals with the new one on the left ;-)

OthmarAmmann · Dec 18, 2012

I'm just saying expecting a straight answer from a lawyer may result in disappointment. That's all.

No offense to any of our attorney friends.

OthmarAmmann · Dec 18, 2012

So Glendale did their excise bond issue without incident on Friday. $239 million, 5% coupon, bid at premium. Not sure the effective yield but I guess 3% to 4%. Should help the cause.

davemac1313 · Dec 18, 2012

Thomas L said:
So Glendale did their excise bond issue without incident on Friday. $239 million, 5% coupon, bid at premium. Not sure the effective yield but I guess 3% to 4%. Should help the cause.

What does that even mean? I'm just a dumb hockey fan, did they sell? does this mean they were able to reduce the debt payment as they hoped?In Killions mysterious conspiracy world, who is the buyer of these bonds and what hold do they now have on the new city council?

OthmarAmmann · Dec 18, 2012

davemac1313 said:
What does that even mean? I'm just a dumb hockey fan, did they sell? does this mean they were able to reduce the debt payment as they hoped?In Killions mysterious conspiracy world, who is the buyer of these bonds and what hold do they now have on the new city council?

Yes they sold and yes the new bonds will reduce the debt service. They were purchased by several different investors in the municipal bond market.

These bonds are different than those that they tried to issue this past January. You could say those bonds had no collateral, while these have a lien against Glendale tax receipts.

These are also similar to the Hulzinger parking bonds inasmuch as those were to be backed by the parking fees that were supposed to be collected. The issue however is that even under the most ridiculously optimistic assumptions the parking fees would not cover the interest on the bonds for several years, so they were effectively Glendale general obligation bonds even though they were not technically so.

No Fun Shogun · Dec 19, 2012

Watch this whole thing get settled on the 21st, and then all the fools that doubted the Mayans will be shown up for all eternity.

Or not. Equally likely.

Tommy Hawk · Dec 19, 2012

Slashers98 said:
Route 666, the route that leads to nowhere!

Great movie. Lou Diamond Phillips.......

Thomas L said:
Yes they sold and yes the new bonds will reduce the debt service. They were purchased by several different investors in the municipal bond market.

These bonds are different than those that they tried to issue this past January. You could say those bonds had no collateral, while these have a lien against Glendale tax receipts.

These are also similar to the Hulzinger parking bonds inasmuch as those were to be backed by the parking fees that were supposed to be collected. The issue however is that even under the most ridiculously optimistic assumptions the parking fees would not cover the interest on the bonds for several years, so they were effectively Glendale general obligation bonds even though they were not technically so.

Curious as to the wording in the bonds. Was the wording strengthened to avoid being subordinated via council actions?

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