Player Discussion Phillip Danault (Part 3)

[dcyhabs]

I would think the habs wait on Danault until after the draft. If Price is gone they can rebuild, LTIR Weber, let Danault, Armia, etc. walk, deal for picks and prospects, tank for top picks in the next two drafts.

If Price is back they might as well pay Danault 6 mil per year, sign whoever they can back, hope Weber is back for the playoffs and go with the core.

Danault may well be overrated because of Gallagher and Price, we'll get some idea if he leaves. He may well be underrated because of the lack of transition and speed on D.

 

[llamateizer]

Damn, lol.

Okay, which one of you leaked that fake info to Jonathan Cossette? Well done.

I'd love to see the exchange between Cossette and his source.

 

[Milhouse40]

Still funny that info got out like what....30 minutes....and all the Engels, Marinaro or Lavoie....guys who never really broke any stories and never been able to predict anything about the Habs...all have suddenly solid infos.

Could be true.....but there's one thing the NHL is doing, they tried to keep everything under wrapped for until tomorrow night. Signing, trades, deals between Seattle and teams. But they all know he won't be back though....

So as with Price....we'll know tomorrow night.

 

[dcyhabs]

What's with MB and ultimatums? Is Molson giving him hard limits so he has no choice? Is he just arbitrarily grandstanding? He gave Gallagher and Byron more than he had to, why hard limits for Radulov, Markov, Danault? Too many question marks?

 

[417]

Man, I showed you numbers 100 times already, Danault produces more than enough 5on5 for that type of cash.

He's one of the most productive centers 5on5 during the last 3 seasons so all this offensive blackhole talk is just utter bullshit.

I never uttered the words "offensive blackhole".

And you can post as many stats as you want, a guy with a career high 13 goals and 5 in his contract year, does not deserve 5M+ IN MY OPINIOIN.

If another team is willing to do that...by all means, go get that bag Phil!

 

[Habs10Habs]

Well apparently it's not true

lol damn, well it gave us all something interesting to chat about for a few mins.

 

[Habaneros]

Oh-oh, Hebdo Journal Trois-Rivières DESTROYED.

When Seattle seen the Hebdo Journal leak the deal, they backed out,...took the 5.8 x 8 yr deal for Phil off the table...


LOL

 

[McGees]

Rumor probably started from Phil trying to boost his stock lol.

 

[CHfan1]

Still funny that info got out like what....30 minutes....and all the Engels, Marinaro or Lavoie....guys who never really broke any stories and never been able to predict anything about the Habs...all have suddenly solid infos.

Could be true.....but there's one thing the NHL is doing, they tried to keep everything under wrapped for until tomorrow night. Signing, trades, deals between Seattle and teams. But they all know he won't be back though....

So as with Price....we'll know tomorrow night.

This is Lavoie’s source:

 

[TannedBum]

8x 5.8M

For Phil...

 

[Belial]

I never uttered the words "offensive blackhole".

And you can post as many stats as you want, a guy with a career high 13 goals and 5 in his contract year, does not deserve 5M+ IN MY OPINIOIN.

If another team is willing to do that...by all means, go get that bag Phil!

There's more involved in the game than just looking at his goals totals. No one ever claimed he was a goalscorer. That's such a superficial analysis...

 

[Deebs]

This is Lavoie’s source:

Not good enough

 

[sheed36]

I wonder where it went wrong with the Habs and Danault if he's highly unlikely to be back? Is it because MB just doesn't want to pay what Danault is asking for or does Danault just want to move on from the Habs.

 

[Milhouse40]

This is Lavoie’s source:

Yeah, his agent will confirmed a contract that he's been asked to keep silent until tomorrow to freaking Renaud Lavoie. Come on. It's like the worst source, of course his agent will deny.

 

[417]

There's more involved in the game than just looking at his goals totals. No one ever claimed he was a goalscorer. That's such a superficial analysis...

You're not recognizing the correlation between salary and offensive production.

That's what's really superficial here.

 

[CHfan1]

Yeah, his agent will confirmed a contract that he's been asked to keep silent until tomorrow to freaking Renaud Lavoie. Come on. It's like the worst source, of course his agent will deny.

I guess we find out tomorrow. I won’t believe anything this offseason until it’s confirmed.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

What's with MB and ultimatums? Is Molson giving him hard limits so he has no choice? Is he just arbitrarily grandstanding? He gave Gallagher and Byron more than he had to, why hard limits for Radulov, Markov, Danault? Too many question marks?

He gave a more than fair contract to Danault, but he refused it, he can't do much more, especially since Weber and Price will probably miss the next season, we have no reason to overpay for Danault.

 

[Belial]

You're not recognizing the correlation between salary and offensive production.

That's what's really superficial here.

The numbers are there you just decided to ignore them.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

I wonder where it went wrong with the Habs and Danault if he's highly unlikely to be back? Is it because MB just doesn't want to pay what Danault is asking for or does Danault just want to move on from the Habs.

That's pretty clear to me. His clan leaked the info, and that generally doesn't please GMs and management teams. He openly pouted last summer at his press conference about how he was not going to be a strictly defensive guy. He refused a 6 years, 5M per season offer without even giving a counter offer.

So yeah. I try to think of anything Bergevin might have done wrong here, but I can't find any.

 

[417]

The numbers are there you just decided to ignore them.

I haven't ignored them...you pointed out that our 2nd most used forward at ES also had good ES production.

I mean...cool story.

5 goals though.

 

[dcyhabs]

He gave a more than fair contract to Danault, but he refused it, he can't do much more, especially since Weber and Price will probably miss the next season, we have no reason to overpay for Danault.

And he said the same for Radulov... I don't think posing in the media helps his negotiation. I guess it's his way of telling guys to leave.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I wonder where it went wrong with the Habs and Danault if he's highly unlikely to be back? Is it because MB just doesn't want to pay what Danault is asking for or does Danault just want to move on from the Habs.

Disparity between opinions on the player.

Danault thinks he's a top 6 2way C and MB sees him more like a defensive minded 3rd line guy who can ship in offensively in the reg season.

I liked Danault, but I think Suzuki's 2 way ability makes the prospect of acquiring a more offensive C a possibility. And we should.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

And he said the same for Radulov... I don't think posing in the media helps his negotiation. I guess it's his way of telling guys to leave.

Not only was it not the same context but for Radulov and Markov, MB acted like a douche during the press conference with his "I don't expect loyalty from a player, if I want that, I'll buy a dog" "I made them an offer, they take it or leave it, we have money for only one of them, first arrived, first served..."

And the offers he made them were not overpayment, unlike Danault and the 5M/6-year contract

 

[OldCraig71]

I wonder where it went wrong with the Habs and Danault if he's highly unlikely to be back? Is it because MB just doesn't want to pay what Danault is asking for or does Danault just want to move on from the Habs.

I believe that we will see MB stay well under the cap this year. If it is indeed his last season as GM, he might not want to make any big moves that handcuff the new guy coming in.

 

[dcyhabs]

I believe that we will see MB stay well under the cap this year. If it is indeed his last season as GM, he might not want to make any big moves that handcuff the new guy coming in.

If it is his last year they need to hire some potential replacements and let them learn on the job.