Confirmed Trade: [PHI/BUF] Erik Johnson for 2024 4th round pick

[mercury]

Oh, and this clearly helps.

Isn't Johnson UFA?

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

See Colorado Avalanche. Spring 2021-22.

How could a 35-year-old on a one-year-deal who's won a Stanley Cup benefit a room full of first and second-year pros?

The silliness of some of these posts (particularly the day after the Flyers defeated the top team in the Eastern Conference) is mind boggling.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Is this the financial guy?

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Isn't Johnson UFA?

Yep.

 

[mercury]

Yep.

OK, so retention doesn't matter. My concern is that EJ looks half-decent, and Torts and the young guys love him. I could see him re-signed for 2-3 years after this.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Small price to pay for an extra D-man who is good in the room. Seems like a very small win-win-win (for BUF, PHI, and EJ)

That's how I see it.

 

[dirtydanglez]

i think this move is ok. he's a good locker room guy and can still play #5/6d

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

OK, so retention doesn't matter. My concern is that EJ looks half-decent, and Torts and the young guys love him. I could see him re-signed for 2-3 years after this.

I'd be shocked if that were the case. He's 35. Not 27.

 

[mercury]

I'd be shocked if that were the case. He's 35. Not 27.

But we are talking about the Flyers here.

 

[TomBlizzy12]

Old man Marc Staal is the prototypical D for Torts, so it all makes sense.

If you can block shots and get the puck out of the D zone by any means necessary, you are guaranteed top 4 minutes with Torts

 

[Toonces]

Yeah, it's only a 4th, and I get they're statically likely to make the playoffs, but an asset is still an asset. They're trying to have it both ways, and I'm not sure that's going to work in the long term. Hoping some of these picks they've loaded up on hit.

 

[Evergreen]

What makes this hard to swallow is we don't trust them to get those kids playoff experience with a veteran option on the roster I'd rather play attard

I understand that concern, but I think Ginning comes out of the lineup for EJ. And frankly I think there is value in letting your guys, who have performed well above expectations this year, know that you are still going to support them in their playoff push despite the fact you had to trade a top-4 dman to help provision the team for the future. It sends a positive message.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

But we are talking about the Flyers here.

The 2023-24 Flyers. Not the pre-Torts/Brierre Flyers.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

If you can block shots and get the puck out of the D zone by any means necessary, you are guaranteed top 4 minutes with Torts

"Old Man" Staal has played exactly 29 games. Hardly Top 4 minutes.

 

[HaNotsri]

OK, so retention doesn't matter. My concern is that EJ looks half-decent, and Torts and the young guys love him. I could see him re-signed for 2-3 years after this.

He gave up mid game a couple of weeks ago and didn't play after that I think. Certainly someone Torts will love.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

 

[drede]

But why?

They seem to be selling but also buying just odd

 

[mercury]

They seem to be selling but also buying just odd

They're selling inflated assets that they will not be able to sign for cheap and tinkering with the lineup. The big move this year was Gauthier for Drysdale and a 2nd. Kind of surprised that Laughton didn't go, but his value to the team obviously was higher than what anyone offered. The main thing now is to get the young guys playoff experience and to see if Ersson really is the dude.

 

[drede]

They're selling inflated assets that they will not be able to sign for cheap and tinkering with the lineup. The big move this year was Gauthier for Drysdale and a 2nd. Kind of surprised that Laughton didn't go, but his value to the team obviously was higher than what anyone offered. The main thing now is to get the young guys playoff experience and to see if Ersson really is the dude.

Hopefully Drysdale works out good young player but alot of injuries already. Hopefully he can stay healthy and improve

 

[mr4tno]

Unless Risto and/or Drysdale are out for the year this is a questionable move. One thing that isn’t questionable this is a overpay

Th only thing Dany learned from Fletcher and Holmgren is how to overpay

 

[Chainshot]

He gave up mid game a couple of weeks ago and didn't play after that I think. Certainly someone Torts will love.

There was a lot of reporting that he was ill.

 

[biturbo19]

Philly really loading up for their playoff run. Replacing smol tiny Walker with Big Strong Derik Johnson.


It's hilarious how unserious the Flyers playoff aspirations are. Everyone's just kinda pretending like it's not even a thing. Even though it's kind of a thing...

 

[tsujimoto74]

Surprised to get a 4th for him tbh, but maybe I shouldn’t be in this draft. The 2024 class seems to be regarded as a pretty darn shallow one.

 

[63 others]

Is this the financial guy?

no thats jack johnson

 

[ponder719]

Isn't Johnson UFA?

He is, but two things: one, he’s not producing at either his contract level or the value of the pick we gave up, so this doesn’t speak well to Brière’s negotiating, and two, I wrote that before the deadline. Having extra cap space doesn’t matter now that we can’t make other moves, but at that point, we could have, and extra space under the cap would have made doing so easier.