Post-Game Talk: | Pens vs Oilers | loss | Burn the tape

[Sidney the Kidney]

I think Dumoulin is near-cooked and they have to adjust accordingly. Replace some of his 5-on-5 shifts with Rutta, POJ. Keep him fresher for D zone and PK. I think we can squeeze a productive year out of him with some tweaks.

Rakell looked awesome and his movement and shot mentality is needed on PP1. They’d be stupid not to put him there.

I have zero faith in Dumoulin at this point. He has too many games where he's constantly fumbling the puck or giving it away with a badly placed pass. And he doesn't really do a whole lot of "shutdown defending".

IMO if there's still one spot the Pens need to improve it's #1 LD. I don't think Pettersson or Pojo can do it and I don't think Dumoulin's that guy any longer.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

+ POJ looked decent enough
+ RR with some offense
+ We showed up in the 1st Period

--- Biggest issue since start of Season has been PP1. They are just awful.
- Holy shit. What kinda defense were we playing, some kind of zone where we don't cover people or space.
- We could not pass, we could not receive passes... even with time, it looked like we had a sand wedge or something.
- Letang and Dumo brain farts

 

[Al Smith]

I thought POJ looked okay on the PP, but I didn't like his game at even strength. Also, the way Puljujarvi manhandled him at the end, made him look like an AHL scrub.

He made some bad passes, but he certainly wasn't alone. 97 abused him a couple times, but that's not really a fair measuring stick for POJ at this point in his career.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

I thought POJ looked okay on the PP, but I didn't like his game at even strength. Also, the way Puljujarvi manhandled him at the end, made him look like an AHL scrub.

POJ was the only Penguin dressed tonight who ended up with positive possession stats. He may be a bit light on his skates, but his speed enabled him to shut down multiple rushes, including at least two in the third period.

 

[SomeDude]

Jeff Petry has a Joe Melichar-esque ability to take multiple obstruction penalties on any given shift. Guy is too slow to pinch and take chances like he does. He's constantly out of position. He's like Matheson but slower, older, more expensive, and less dynamic. Not impressed so far.

 

[Jacob]

POJ has gotten incrementally better.

 

[ChaosAgent]

POJ was the only Penguin dressed tonight who ended up with positive possession stats. He may be a bit light on his skates, but his speed enabled him to shut down multiple rushes, including at least two in the third period.

POJ is notably fast. I like his game right now.

 

[JTG]

Posting this thread is like shitting in the bathtub.

 

[66-30-33]

I have zero faith in Dumoulin at this point. He has too many games where he's constantly fumbling the puck or giving it away with a badly placed pass. And he doesn't really do a whole lot of "shutdown defending".

IMO if there's still one spot the Pens need to improve it's #1 LD. I don't think Pettersson or Pojo can do it and I don't think Dumoulin's that guy any longer.

Here comes Chychrun.

 

[JTG]

POJ is notably fast. I like his game right now.

He is a very good skater. I have noticed that too. He got back on an odd man break in a quick hurry. He also got absolutely tossed by Kane, I think is who it was.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

He made some bad passes, but he certainly wasn't alone. 97 abused him a couple times, but that's not really a fair measuring stick for POJ at this point in his career.

A lot of bad passes, but I guess he should be given more leeway until he adjusts to the NHL pace.

 

[Ugene Magic]

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

POJ was the only Penguin dressed tonight who ended up with positive possession stats. He may be a bit light on his skates, but his speed enabled him to shut down multiple rushes, including at least two in the third period.

I know people into analytics love him, but I'm only basing this off what I saw tonight

 

[Jacob]

I think some blame goes to forwards for not supporting D enough. Gotta have guys back against teams like this. Not just in the area but BACK.

And when the D is constantly turning it over and it’s 3-4 guys it’s probably the forwards not making themselves realistic options.

 

[Gurglesons]

I thought POJ looked okay on the PP, but I didn't like his game at even strength. Also, the way Puljujarvi manhandled him at the end, made him look like an AHL scrub.

From what I’ve seen POJ and Rutta were our best two defensemen the last two games.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

That Draisaitl goal is really one where either Tanger or Dumo need to ignore the puck and try to body check Drai out of position.

I know he is a big, strong guy, but this team of all teams should know that you've already lost against a skill player when you are defending them by reaching for the puck.

 

[Turin]

Hope Zucker is fine. He’s been important.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Horrific game so instead I pose a serious question.

Have the Oilers EVER scored 6 goals where McDavid had 0 points? I don't believe so

Yes they have, they scored 7 in a playoff game

 

[vodeni]

what worries me

Jeff Petry has a Joe Melichar-esque ability to take multiple obstruction penalties on any given shift. Guy is too slow to pinch and take chances like he does. He's constantly out of position. He's like Matheson but slower, older, more expensive, and less dynamic. Not impressed so far.

With a heavy hart I have to agree

 

[Al Smith]

I know people into analytics love him, but I'm only basing this off what I saw tonight

He's doing OK as long as you don't have huge expectations. He's able to make up for positioning mistakes/bad pinches with his speed, so more power to him, but he's pretty raw in NHL experience, so it's a little early to make any long-term judgments about him. There were certainly much bigger issues on D tonight than POJ.

 

[SomeDude]

At least everyone saying they wanted to have a good 1st period are happy, right?

 

[66-30-33]

At least everyone saying they wanted to have a good 1st period are happy, right?

I missed it.

 

[Al Smith]

Hope Zucker is fine. He’s been important.

Kinda looked like he took one in the nuts. He was back on PP2 at the end.

 

[Gurglesons]

Jeff Petry has a Joe Melichar-esque ability to take multiple obstruction penalties on any given shift. Guy is too slow to pinch and take chances like he does. He's constantly out of position. He's like Matheson but slower, older, more expensive, and less dynamic. Not impressed so far.

Weird. I think he’s been good. Most of his penalties are early season “show them how it’s going to be” bullshit.

 

[SomeDude]

Weird. I think he’s been good. Most of his penalties are early season “show them how it’s going to be” bullshit.

They look more like "Oh ****, this guy is going to score and I was supposed to be on him" bullshit to me. Look at the McLeod goal tonight. Carter, Petterson, and Drake back while Petry is strolling through no-man's land.