Post-Game Talk: Pens @ Flames: Classic Sully Pens

[Empoleon8771]

No they don’t. The Pirates only exist to make Nutting money and develop a couple of players here and there for legitimate clubs. The Penguins legitimately want to win they just aged out and are too stubborn to accept it. It’s not even a comparison.

The Pirates will win nothing with these guys, trade the few that they don’t ruin their development for more magic beans, and dummies will keep giving them money and attention.

Like I said, you're not wrong yet they give more reasons for optimism than the Penguins

 

[Rudy Russo]

Staying up until 1AM to watch this bullshit is insane. I need to see a shrink.

I saw them in Vegas in January when they had a two to zero lead going into the third and lost 3 to 2. I was so pissed after that game because after Vegas tied it I knew the pens would lose.

 

[SomeDude]

We get embarrassed on Kipper night AND Jagr night. We need to stop being part of these things.

German Titov night will right the ship.

 

[66-30-33]

Part of me is happy that they made it clear to the last believers that they can’t compete. Dubas has no excuses now. Sell, this will be our entertainement for the season.

We will fire the coaching staff, trade for new young players and go on a run only to miss the playoffs by 1 RW or ROW.

 

[metalan2]

No they don’t. The Pirates only exist to make Nutting money and develop a couple of players here and there for legitimate clubs. The Penguins legitimately want to win they just aged out and are too stubborn to accept it. It’s not even a comparison.

The Pirates will win nothing with these guys, trade the few that they don’t ruin their development for more magic beans, and dummies will keep giving them money and attention.

I believe there is a better chance of the Penguins winning a cup this season than the Pirates winning a championship in the next 20.

 

[Gurglesons]

My predictions...

Guentzel to Vegas
Ruhwedel to Vancouver
Smith to Nashville
Ned to LA

 

[SomeDude]

We will fire the coaching staff, trade for new young players and go on a run only to miss the playoffs by 1 RW or ROW.

Don’t forget Bennstrom scoring his 10th goal after Sully keeps trotting him out for empty netters to make sure we give Columbus a 3rd as a final middle finger to all of us.

 

[Extra Texture]

The penguins should of fired Sullivan after losing to Montreal in the Covid playoffs of 2020.

Absolutely. And when the hammer didnt come down then, it should’ve the following spring. But I guess the second embarrassing loss to the Isles could’ve been couched in the “Jarry shat the bed” narrative.

I’ve never seen a coach live on past glories as effectively as this one. He must run this org behind the scenes. And it’s like we’re taking crazy pills bc whenever his name is spoken by other team fans or commentators it’s all “OHHH SUCH GREAT COACH, PENS R SOOOO LUCKY TO HAVE HIM”. Well, take him motherf***ers, if you love him so much. And FSG and seemingly Dubas have guzzled down that same koolaid from the first day they arrived.

Whatever glories we still had left in the mature years of 87 and 71 were just torched at the altar of mike’s precious reputation. Makes me sick. The culprit wasn’t the trading of draft picks for futures or the “oh they’re just old” bullshit narrative we’re given. No, sorry, the core trio were still productive. Even bad GMs still managed to make decent moves with Zuck, Rakell and (until lately) EK. The common denominator is one guy, who ownership is apparrently too afraid to Contemplate life without.

I’ve been drinking so excuse my heavy handedness

 

[66-30-33]

Don’t forget Bennstrom scoring his 10th goal after Sully keeps trotting him out for empty netters to make sure we give Columbus a 3rd as a final middle finger to all of us.

Sully will be part of the fired coaching staff, we wont have to worry.

 

[Gurglesons]

Can we ban anyone talking about the pirates in this thread lol. Steelers too.

Sully will be part of the fired coaching staff, we wont have to worry.

I will be shocked if they let Sullivan go, but maybe this is just some weird way of not getting too giddy about it finally happening..

 

[66-30-33]

Can we ban anyone talking about the pirates in this thread lol. Steelers too.



I will be shocked if they let Sullivan go, but maybe this is just some weird way of not getting too giddy about it finally happening..

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Can we ban anyone talking about the pirates in this thread lol. Steelers too.



I will be shocked if they let Sullivan go, but maybe this is just some weird way of not getting too giddy about it finally happening..

The only coaching change this team might (and I stress "might") make is firing Reirden and blaming him entirely for the PP woes. Sullivan ain't going nowhere ever.

 

[Gurglesons]

The only coaching change this team might (and I stress "might") make is firing Reirden and blaming him entirely for the PP woes. Sullivan ain't going nowhere ever.

Yeah, it seems like the media is now convinced that Sullivan will be fired at the end of the year somewhat and I'm like.. why would they not fire him all season and then pull the trigger in the offseason?

This team has been dead in the water since November despite the actual math saying otherwise and they just sat around and did nothing. We are at the point where we are going to trade the best winger Crosby ever had (outside of Hossa) before we fire a coach who hasn't won anything in 6 seasons...

 

[ChaosAgent]

Absolutely. And when the hammer didnt come down then, it should’ve the following spring. But I guess the second embarrassing loss to the Isles could’ve been couched in the “Jarry shat the bed” narrative.

I’ve never seen a coach live on past glories as effectively as this one. He must run this org behind the scenes. And it’s like we’re taking crazy pills bc whenever his name is spoken by other team fans or commentators it’s all “OHHH SUCH GREAT COACH, PENS R SOOOO LUCKY TO HAVE HIM”. Well, take him motherf***ers, if you love him so much. And FSG and seemingly Dubas have guzzled down that same koolaid from the first day they arrived.

Whatever glories we still had left in the mature years of 87 and 71 were just torched at the altar of mike’s precious reputation. Makes me sick. The culprit wasn’t the trading of draft picks for futures or the “oh they’re just old” bullshit narrative we’re given. No, sorry, the core trio were still productive. Even bad GMs still managed to make decent moves with Zuck, Rakell and (until lately) EK. The common denominator is one guy, who ownership is apparrently too afraid to Contemplate life without.

I’ve been drinking so excuse my heavy handedness

I think everyone outside of this board loved Mike Sullivan.

The core.
Our media.
Our management and ownership.
Other teams media, management and ownership.

Only recently has that begun to change, but our best shots were 2020-2022. We have also aged out as we sit here now. Firing Sullivan, though warranted, does not allow us a re-do on 2020-2022.

 

[SomeDude]

Sully will be part of the fired coaching staff, we wont have to worry.

Oh you poor naive soul. They’ll fire all assistants for the 3rd time because Sully has been wronged yet again. Bamboozled even.

 

[Rudy Russo]

My predictions...

Guentzel to Vegas
Ruhwedel to Vancouver
Smith to Nashville
Ned to LA

I'd add Eller to your list.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Yeah, it seems like the media is now convinced that Sullivan will be fired at the end of the year somewhat and I'm like.. why would they not fire him all season and then pull the trigger in the offseason?

This team has been dead in the water since November despite the actual math saying otherwise and they just sat around and did nothing. We are at the point where we are going to trade the best winger Crosby ever had (outside of Hossa) before we fire a coach who hasn't won anything in 6 seasons...

If the Penguins were car mechanics, they'd keep changing the oil and rotating the tires before ever checking to see whether the engine's the reason the car isn't running.

 

[Extra Texture]

we did all this back with bylsma btw

That’s what is hard to take about this. In 2014 there was all kinds of talk about how we needed to trade core pieces because “it just wasn’t happening for this team.” As if the players were the problem, and the coach was sacrosanct.

Well, on a similar timeline with Sullivan, we passed the same point, the point of “we need to make major changes because the players are failing”, like 3 years ago. But instead of changes on the roster, or to coaching, it’s just met by a “Welp, what can you do? I mean the team produces a lot of offense, and the players are still bought in”. Of course both of those narratives unraveled over the last couple of years.

Imagine if, for comparisons sake, DB was still in charge of the team circa 2017, living off the 2009 cup. I just wish when FSG, Dubas, Burke, Rutherford, Burkle, whoever had stepped to the microphone, they had spoken the truth; “the reality is that we’re satisfied with three cups, and making our players comfortable and giving them familiarity is more important to us than winning anything”

 

[66-30-33]

Oh you poor naive soul. They’ll fire all assistants for the 3rd time because Sully has been wronged yet again. Bamboozled even.

If we keep him i'll watch MAYBE 20 games next season.

 

[SomeDude]

My predictions...

Guentzel to Vegas
Ruhwedel to Vancouver
Smith to Nashville
Ned to LA

 

[Gurglesons]

If the Penguins were car mechanics, they'd keep changing the oil and rotating the tires before ever checking to see whether the engine's the reason the car isn't running.

Whatever. At least I can stop pretending they were going to win three straight and someone make their way back into the playoffs this year.

Sucks that Dubas has never won a trade. Kinda scared what he's going to do the next few days..

Like if Dubas had the Rakell trade on his resume it'd probably be his best trade.

 

[vodeni]

I think everyone outside of this board loved Mike Sullivan.

The core.
Our media.
Our management and ownership.
Other teams media, management and ownership.

Only recently has that begun to change, but our best shots were 2020-2022. We have also aged out as we sit here now. Firing Sullivan, though warranted, does not allow us a re-do on 2020-2022.

Under his leadership they lost to Montreal, they lost to Ranger s after 3:1 they lost to CBJ and hawks two worst teams …how he is still the coach

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Whatever. At least I can stop pretending they were going to win three straight and someone make their way back into the playoffs this year.

Sucks that Dubas has never won a trade. Kinda scared what he's going to do the next few days..

Like if Dubas had the Rakell trade on his resume it'd probably be his best trade.

My concern is they'll make a trade as a last ditch effort to make the playoffs even though it's clear as day this team is going nowhere with the dumb dumb behind the bench.

I'd actually be shocked if they were sellers. At best, they'll stand pat and think they just need to get to their game more consistently to start winning.

 

[SomeDude]

Sucks that Dubas has never won a trade.

He batted 1.00 against JR. Got a haul somehow for Kapanen and then got McCann for a song only to not keep him. Not saying much though given JR’s run there at the end.


I have 0 faith in Dubas handling this. We’re gonna be in purgatory for half a decade then hell for another.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Under his leadership they lost to Montreal, they lost to Ranger s after 3:1 they lost to CBJ and hawks two worst teams …how he is still the coach

All the reasons spelled out earlier.

I hate it too and don't understand why FSG felt the need to give him that extension even if they loved him as a fellow Bahston POS.