Post-Game Talk: Pens @ Flames: Classic Sully Pens

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I think the sane move is to stop watching the standings at this point. We aren’t getting back into any playoff picture. Trade news is the only thing it pay attention to.

I don’t know what, if any good firing the coach will do at this point. It’s another year down the drain, with Sid putting on a vintage performance and it being wasted again.

That’s now 7 (!!!) years of futility under Sullivan. That’s far more rope than even Bylsma got, and he was the culprit of wasting our best years under this core.

 

[SomeDude]

It's not that hard to start one. We need to have faith Dubas makes the right moves for the future of this team by this time next week.

I have as much faith in Dubas right now as I do in late stage Craig Patrick netting 0 picks or legit NHL players for prime Jagr and Kovalev.

Hes going to trade for a bunch of ECHLers who have great fancy stats to prove how smart he isn’t.

 

[Fordy]

I honestly don't understand it. Why do the "casuals" love him so much? Do they not actually form their own opinions by watching him and just rely on the local reporters/television talking heads to tell them he's awesome?

yes, as strong as the fanbase is, most people have never played the game. if they hear someone is at fault like hextall? you'll hear the boos and jeers. no one has ever even suggested sullivan is at fault in a venue that most people would hear it

 

[DesertedPenguin]

The kinda fanbase that will chant to fire the GM but not the coach?

Hextall was never accepted. Sullivan won two Cups.

Fans will acknowledge its time for change, but they won't run Sullivan out of town.

 

[ChaosAgent]

They chanted to fire Hextall too. What do you think holds them back from Sully?

Well for one, Sully was egging the fans on through the media on Hextall.

Neither Dubas nor FSG has said a single thing to indicate any of this falls on Sully.
And honestly the fanbase was kind of expecting us to decline any way, and rightfully so.

F**** Sully regardless. Coaches are hired to be fired in this league. FSG has gone way against the grain with some serious hubris in their "lifetime coach" gambit. This is not the way the National Hockey League works. When you go against the grain and get burned, you should be crucified.

 

[Empoleon8771]

media didn't like hextall. no one did, but that was the impetus for the chants. there's just no normie media weight behind the anti sullivan stuff

This is 100% it. The media hated Hextall and fans bought into it, which is why they hated him. The media loves Sullivan, which is why fans don't criticize him to nearly the same level.

The angst towards Hextall was warranted of course, but it's all just the media swirling the narrative. Fans probably hated Hextall because he would give Yohe good quotes to run with, not because he was a dogshit GM.

 

[Turin]

media didn't like hextall. no one did, but that was the impetus for the chants. there's just no normie media weight behind the anti sullivan stuff

Yup.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

I honestly don't understand it. Why do the "casuals" love him so much? Do they not actually form their own opinions by watching him and just rely on the local reporters/television talking heads to tell them he's awesome?

Those stupid f***ing marks loved Bylsma and Shero and claimed when they got fired the team would crash and burn.

 

[Fordy]

we did all this back with bylsma btw

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think the sane move is to stop watching the standings at this point.

Tbh the sane move is stop watching this team at this point

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Seeing Sid outside of Pitt would suck no matter what

I'd be happiest that way, since he would be happiest, and the team would actually be doing the right thing.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Hextall was never accepted. Sullivan won two Cups.

Fans will acknowledge its time for change, but they won't run Sullivan out of town.

low key ran Bylsma outta tahn

 

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Also Karlsson looked like a difference maker out there early on during the first 12ish games. Now he looks like Tyson Barrie out there


Wonder why?

He finally got to his game.

In all seriousness do the press ever ask Sullivan about this? EK and Petterson were a killer pair. They get broken up and now everyone f***ing sucks. Wasn’t it better to have at least one lights out blueline duo and just try to “fix” Ryan Graves some other way?

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

I'd be happiest that way, since he would be happiest, and the team would actually be doing the right thing.

I'm selfish and couldn't bring myself to feel like that

 

[ChaosAgent]

Seeing Sid outside of Pitt would suck no matter what

I guess I'm a different kind of sports fan. It doesn't crush me to see a player in a different jersey if it's in both parties' interest to move on.

 

[Empoleon8771]

low key ran Bylsma outta tahn

I don't think fans turned on Bylsma until the media turned on Bylsma. Which hasn't happened with Sullivan and why so many casual fans won't criticize Sullivan.

 

[Fordy]

low key ran Bylsma outta tahn

when there was finally nowhere else to turn. don't you realize he was team USA's coach?

 

[metalan2]

Tbh the sane move is stop watching this team at this point

Yea. Not watching unless they win like 10 in a row or fire Sullivan. I'm already a mental patient for watching this far.

Cancelled my ESPN plus subscription.

Hope they lose like 10-0 tomorrow.

 

[SomeDude]

Can’t wait until we draft Iginla’s kid and switch him to goalie.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

I guess I'm a different kind of sports fan. It doesn't crush me to see a player in a different jersey if it's in both parties' interest to move on.

And that's alright

when there was finally nowhere else to turn. don't you realize he was team USA's coach?

Painfully so, yes

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Two straight regulation losses.

Sully gets a massive amount of blame and rightly so.

But do the players know that the season has been on the line since like December 15?

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Can’t wait until we draft Iginla’s kid and switch him to goalie.

He will sit for Jansen Harkins

 

[Fordy]

let's just remember: any team would love to have dan bylsma as their head coach. you really think some random would do better?

 

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I don't think fans turned on Bylsma until the media turned on Bylsma. Which hasn't happened with Sullivan and why so many casual fans won't criticize Sullivan.

Sheep.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Tbh the sane move is stop watching this team at this point

If you like comedies and are tired of Seinfeld re-runs late at night, the Pens are a pretty good second option.