Panarin - Malkin - Kucherov vs Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Kovalchuk vs Bure - Fedorov - Mogilny

[Ben White]

Who do you take? All at peak.

Panarin - Malkin - Kucherov
or
Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Kovalchuk
or
Bure - Fedorov - Mogilny

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[Ben White]

I view them:

Ovechkin >~ Bure > Panarin
Malkin >~ Fedorov >~ Datsyuk
Mogilny ~ Kucherov >~ Kovalchuk

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

OV > Bure > Panarin
Malkin >= Datsyuk = Fedorov
Kucherov >= Kovy > Mogilny

Line 3 is an easy no as Mogilny is the worst player listed. Bure is clearly behind OV. Fedorov can be argued as the best C but it's basically a wash.

Line 1 or 2. Went with line 2 because OV is the best player listed and the gap between him and Panarin is bigger than any potential gap Malkin and Kucherov have over Datsyuk and Kovy.

I view them:

Ovechkin >~ Bure > Panarin
Malkin >~ Fedorov >~ Datsyuk
Mogilny ~ Kucherov >~ Kovalchuk

Mogilny never once finished even finished top 15 in hart voting, never was a 1st AST and best pts finish was 7th. How is he equal to a ross/hart/lindsay winning Kucherov?

 

[KaosKommando]

Panarin - Malkin - Kucherov

That's it. Malkin and Kucherov are best at their position. That rest doesn't really matter since it's Panarin.

 

[tabness]

Bure Fedorov Mogilny ainec

OV > Bure > Panarin
Malkin >= Datsyuk = Fedorov
Kucherov >= Kovy > Mogilny

Line 3 is an easy no as Mogilny is the worst player listed. Bure is clearly behind OV. Fedorov can be argued as the best C but it's basically a wash.

Line 1 or 2. Went with line 2 because OV is the best player listed and the gap between him and Panarin is bigger than any potential gap Malkin and Kucherov have over Datsyuk and Kovy.



Mogilny never once finished even finished top 15 in hart voting, never was a 1st AST and best pts finish was 7th. How is he equal to a ross/hart/lindsay winning Kucherov?

lol thanks for all the awards placements hockey-reference bot Mogilny is the most talented player here

 

[KaosKommando]

How is he equal to a ross/hart/lindsay winning Kucherov?

If you watched them and saw him as better. He's not of course, but a player can be better than another without trophies or such. Just by virtue of being better.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Bure Fedorov Mogilny ainec



lol thanks for all the awards placements hockey-reference bot Mogilny is the most talented player here

Lol who cares how talented he was. He accomplished the least. I didn't know pt finishes were awards placements btw.

 

[DamonDRW]

Bure-Fedorov-Mogilny without a doubt and I'm a huge fan of Datsyuk. People forgot how dominant Soviet hockey was.

 

[Ben White]

OV > Bure > Panarin
Malkin >= Datsyuk = Fedorov
Kucherov >= Kovy > Mogilny

Line 3 is an easy no as Mogilny is the worst player listed. Bure is clearly behind OV. Fedorov can be argued as the best C but it's basically a wash.

Line 1 or 2. Went with line 2 because OV is the best player listed and the gap between him and Panarin is bigger than any potential gap Malkin and Kucherov have over Datsyuk and Kovy.



Mogilny never once finished even finished top 15 in hart voting, never was a 1st AST and best pts finish was 7th. How is he equal to a ross/hart/lindsay winning Kucherov?

Mogilny was amazing at his peak

 

[obZen]

The three best skaters are all in the same group.

 

[JackSlater]

Bure - Fedorov - Mogilny because Fedorov was very easy to play with and fills a lot of holes. The first line would score a ton and give up a lot of goals against too. The second line has three players who need the puck on their stick to be effective offensively, unless it's the 2010s version of Ovechkin, in which case I'm not very impressed with him in general. The third line fits together most easily with Bure scoring the goals and providing a huge threat off the rush, Fedorov doing the dirty work and chipping in elite offence as well when needed, and Mogilny as the playmaker.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Mogilny was amazing at his peak

He was so amazing that he never once finished top 15 in hart voting. Ok you're going to say that's voted by the media. In that case, Mogilny is the only player listed who never finished top 5 in pts (even after excluding Gretzky and Lemieux). In a poll full of ross, hart, Lindsay winners, guys with multiple top 5 pt finishes, etc sorry but he sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

[Ben White]

He was so amazing that he never once finished top 15 in hart voting. Ok you're going to say that's voted by the media. In that case, Mogilny is the only player listed who never finished top 5 in pts (even after excluding Gretzky and Lemieux). In a poll full of ross, hart, Lindsay winners, guys with multiple top 5 pt finishes, etc sorry but he sticks out like a sore thumb.

76 goals though

 

[Deas]

Mogilny seems to have some kind of hockeycard or videogame star-aura attached to his name.

He has one outlier season in which he was still only 7th in scoring. Was he that good defensively?

Here’s his rank in P/G throughout his career:

Alexander Mogilny

Entered league at age 20

89/90 142

90/91 29

92/93 13

93/94 4

94/95 19

95/96 9

96/97 29

97/98 30

98/99 51

99/00 68

00/01 14

01/02 34

02/03 11

03/04 40

04/05 NA (lockout)

05/06: 113

Retired at age 37


15 seasons included in survey.

Noticeable:

Not very. Elite (4th and 9th) producer in 2 out of his 14 seasons. Mostly hovered between 11th and 40th+ place throughout his career.

 

[tfwnogf]

Assuming all players are at their peak, Ovechkin line bodies the other 2 ainec

 

[Toby91ca]

Isn't the Bure - Fedorov - Mogilny one that only was that was actually real?

 

[bsu]

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Kovalchuk without second thought.... AINEC.​

 

[banks]

I'm glad to see the Ovie-Pavel-Kovy line is getting respect. I thought that most posters would overlook them because Kovalchuk's career fizzled a bit.

At his absolute peak Kovalchuk was unbelievable. He's clearly the weak link on his line, but if we're talking peak he's not far off the rest of the players in the OP.

 

[Machinehead]

You could put Jimmy Vesey with Ovechkin and Datsyuk and I still take Ovechkin and Datsyuk.

 

[Ben White]

Mogilny seems to have some kind of hockeycard or videogame star-aura attached to his name.

He has one outlier season in which he was still only 7th in scoring. Was he that good defensively?

Here’s his rank in P/G throughout his career:

Alexander Mogilny

Entered league at age 20

89/90 142

90/91 29

92/93 13

93/94 4

94/95 19

95/96 9

96/97 29

97/98 30

98/99 51

99/00 68

00/01 14

01/02 34

02/03 11

03/04 40

04/05 NA (lockout)

05/06: 113

Retired at age 37


15 seasons included in survey.

Noticeable:

Not very. Elite (4th and 9th) producer in 2 out of his 14 seasons. Mostly hovered between 11th and 40th+ place throughout his career.

Well, there’s something in it…

I think a part of the hype was due to him being the first Russian NHL superstar coming over, and the circumstances under which he came over, I think that attached to us who where around following hockey at the time.

 

[Craig Button]

Bure Federov Mogilny.

AINEC.

These guys are complete players without any weaknesses.

The only weakness they had was broken bones

 

[psycat]

Voted for 1 since I think Malkins peak is equal to Ovi:s and Kucherov around the same, the rest are all a step or two down.

For primes/careers it would be option 2 though atleast till Kucherov+Panarin has done more.

Didn't even see option 3 but to be honest that might have been my brain just filtering it out since it's 3rd.

 

[authentic]

Mogilny seems to have some kind of hockeycard or videogame star-aura attached to his name.

He has one outlier season in which he was still only 7th in scoring. Was he that good defensively?

Here’s his rank in P/G throughout his career:

Alexander Mogilny

Entered league at age 20

89/90 142

90/91 29

92/93 13

93/94 4

94/95 19

95/96 9

96/97 29

97/98 30

98/99 51

99/00 68

00/01 14

01/02 34

02/03 11

03/04 40

04/05 NA (lockout)

05/06: 113

Retired at age 37


15 seasons included in survey.

Noticeable:

Not very. Elite (4th and 9th) producer in 2 out of his 14 seasons. Mostly hovered between 11th and 40th+ place throughout his career.

If you watched him early on he absolutely looked like a 70 goal scorer in the early 90s. Had todays speed and skill way back in the day. He underachieved relative to his skillset for sure. He was even known as a very smart player on top of all his speed and skill.

 

[authentic]

This is a good poll and depending on the circumstances I would be inclined to choose any of the three. For a full regular season perhaps I would take the Datsyuk line at their peaks, in the playoffs I might have to go with Malkin or Fedorov's line. Tough call really but I think if line two could make it work I would have to go with them overall at their peak.

 

[Staniowski]

The 1st line is my personal favourite and they have a lot of skill....they are the most similar to KLM of the three lines. They are not a perfect fit as a line, but they would be okay, I think. They are lacking a Krutov.

The 2nd line is probably the weakest. It just seems more disjointed than the other two lines.

The 3rd line actually played together for most of '88-'89 (when they were teenagers). Super fast (all 3 of them). They don't fit perfectly as a line either, but they are still an excellent line. Fedorov is a great foundation and stabilizer. They might be the best.