Rumor: Pagnotta: Josh Bailey's name keeps popping up as the player getting traded so NYI can sign Kadri and RFAs. Varlamov staying

[UrbanImpact]

Bailey turning 33 in October, 2 more years signed at 5mil aav per season.

Varlamov is staying in NYI for the rest of the season according to DP.

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[Kranix]

How much bet-hedging and ass-covering did Pagnotta do in the spot though?

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

*Bill Armstrong has entered the chat*

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Process of elimination.

1. Only makes 3.5M in actual dollars.
2. Only two years left on deal.
3. Still puts up some numbers.
4. No trade protection.

It was likely going to have to be him or Beauvillier, but Bailey opens more cap room.

I doubt they get anything significant for him. 40 point forwards with 5M cap hits aren't in high demand.

 

[stl76]

Process of elimination.

1. Only makes 3.5M in actual dollars.
2. Only two years left on deal.
3. Still puts up some numbers.
4. No trade protection.

It was likely going to have to be him or Beauvillier, but Bailey opens more cap room.

I doubt they get anything significant for him. 40 point forwards with 5M cap hits aren't in high demand.

The question isn’t “what will they get?” Its “what will they have to give up?”

 

[bsu]

The question isn’t “what will they get?” Its “what will they have to give up?”

This.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

The question isn’t “what will they get?” Its “what will they have to give up?”

Bingo!

 

[WetcoastOrca]

How much will the NYI have to add to trade him. $5 million cap hit for two years is going to cost a lot.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

The question isn’t “what will they get?” Its “what will they have to give up?”

Potentially. I don't know how the market evaluates Bailey.

Ottawa was able to get a 2nd for Connor Brown, but he only had one year and had a slightly lower cap hit. Bjorkstrand had better production, more term and a good cap hit and returned very little.

I could see anything from the Islanders acquiring a 3rd all the way to even giving up a 2nd.

 

[Dread Clawz]

How much will the NYI have to add to trade him. $5 million cap hit for two years is going to cost a lot.

2nd, 3rd, and prospect

 

[Petes2424]

The question isn’t “what will they get?” Its “what will they have to give up?”

2 years at $5 million AAV is not easy to move right now. They’d have better luck sucking Vegas into trading for Varlamov as they’re obviously going to LTIR Lehner, and that’s not even logical yet.

 

[Reality Czech]

Start packing your bags, future considerations.

 

[ManofSteel55]

So what picks and prospects will Arizona get as compensation when they take Bailey?

 

[Ace]

The teams that would want a vet winger who can produce some don’t have cap space. The teams that have cap space won’t take him without being given an incentive to. Good luck.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Process of elimination.

1. Only makes 3.5M in actual dollars.
2. Only two years left on deal.
3. Still puts up some numbers.
4. No trade protection.

It was likely going to have to be him or Beauvillier, but Bailey opens more cap room.

I doubt they get anything significant for him. 40 point forwards with 5M cap hits aren't in high demand.

He's paced 50+ points over 82 games for like four or five straight seasons before last season. Last season he paced a 48 points.

So yeah, he's not a 40 point player

 

[GAGLine]

So Lou is finally trying to make the team younger.

 

[Captain Mountain]

How much will the NYI have to add to trade him. $5 million cap hit for two years is going to cost a lot.

The salary isn't as high and he's a "good veteran". Cap space is more valuable than he is at the moment, but I don't think its going to cost "a lot".

 

[UrbanImpact]

Process of elimination.

1. Only makes 3.5M in actual dollars.
2. Only two years left on deal.
3. Still puts up some numbers.
4. No trade protection.

It was likely going to have to be him or Beauvillier, but Bailey opens more cap room.

I doubt they get anything significant for him. 40 point forwards with 5M cap hits aren't in high demand.

Isles are definitely going to have to attach an asset to get rid of the last 2 years of Bailey.

Canucks for example have had Tanner Pearson on the block and no takers, he only makes 3.2 mil for 2 mor years.


Pearson is 3 years younger, has 45 goals the last 3 seasons vs Bailey and his 35 over last 3 seasons. Bailey is a better playmaker and this isnt meant to put Bailey down but more so to show the lack of value on wingers at the moment.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

So Lou is finally trying to make the team younger.

Nah, Kadri is basically the same age as Bailey.

 

[Chips]

So Lou is finally trying to make the team younger.

Slightly, and for longer term and bigger money lol. I guess Lou mostly cares about this year and next.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

He's paced 50+ points over 82 games for like four or five straight seasons before last season. Last season he paced a 48 points.

So yeah, he's not a 40 point player

You pay for the player they are now, not the player they were.

 

[isles55]

Could’ve simply bought him out at $1.16 for the next four years. If Lou has to give up anything significant—and he will—he should be fired.

His mismanagement of assets has gone on long enough. He overpays in every trade, then overpays the player, causing him to give up more assets

 

[stl76]

Potentially. I don't know how the market evaluates Bailey.

Ottawa was able to get a 2nd for Connor Brown, but he only had one year and had a slightly lower cap hit. Bjorkstrand had better production, more term and a good cap hit and returned very little.

I could see anything from the Islanders acquiring a 3rd all the way to even giving up a 2nd.

We’ll see but given the current cap environment I’d be surprised if the isles were able to move Bailey without attaching a significant asset. Who knows tho, maybe Lou can work his magic.

 

[GAGLine]

Nah, Kadri is basically the same age as Baily.

Slightly, and for longer term and bigger money lol. I guess Lou mostly cares about this year and next.

It was a joke fellas.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Isles are definitely going to have to attach an asset to get rid of the last 2 years of Bailey.

Canucks for example have had Tanner Pearson on the block and no takers, he only makes 3.2 mil for 2 mor years.


Pearson is 3 years younger, has 45 goals the last 3 seasons vs Bailey and his 35 over last 3 seasons. Bailey is a better playmaker and this isnt meant to put Bailey down but more so to show the lack of value on wingers at the moment.

Bailey PPG over the past two seasons = .61

Pearson PPG over the past two seasons = .44