Proposal: P.K Subban??

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Justin Holl vs PK Subban Athletic Player Card Comparison.

For pure cap purposes if Subban is cheap I can see this trade off making sense, but as far as effectiveness goes not sure how much better we’d be with Subban instead of Holl. And I’m all for moving Holl, just not sure PK is the guy to replace him.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Signing Subban as a 7-8D guarantees that he won't be slewfooting anyone on the team. Smart move.

 

[Anthrax442]

This... this is where he belongs.



But all jokes aside, heck no!

 

[Fogelhund]

I don’t believe subban is not better than holl at all actually he’s more of what we need strong point shot physical shit disturbing rhd as opposed to a floating rhd who thinks he has offensive skills and gets caught in the ozone a lot I much rather have pk at a million more then a holl tbh

When was the last time you watched him play?

 

[colchar]

We're in agreement on the quantity but not the quality

Subban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holl

Leafs started the playoffs for the first 2 games with Holl in the pressbox as a healthy scratch (and should have left him there).

Remember this ?

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** Norris Trophy winner P.K. Subban **​

Now remember this ?

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** Justin Holl delayed penalty on this pick play in game #7 **

I am not one for blaming the refs but that penalty was a bullshit call, absolute bullshit.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I'm suggesting replacing Justin Holl RHD @$2 mil AAV with P.K. Subban RHD a former Norris winner for similar cap to emphasize the quality difference between Holl and Subban as a team upgrade.

Your comparison is irrelevant to the on going discussion of improving the Leafs roster by adding P.K. Subban as Gio wasn't even in the equation, until you brought him up.

You seem to have lost the thread of this thread in your excitement to point out Gio was also a former Norris winner.

At 750k, Subban might be a half-decent depth signing. At Holl's salary, it would be insane.

Losing the point of a thread -- good one!

 

[arso40]

When was the last time you watched him play?

Haha I’ve watched him play last season were you watching holl last season? Come on now

 

[Menzinger]

If he's willing to take a 1-2 year dirt cheap deal, (800k-1sh mil) I'm not opposed to it.

 

[Knies iT]

This would only make sense if Sandin were moved because Subban still has enough name reputation to be a regular somewhere. He is not going to play only 30-40 games and simultaneously he's not worthwhile enough to permanently block Sandin.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Would this be cap compliant?

Assuming Subban is cheap (1.5m or less), absolutely. Moving out Kerfoot and Holl frees up 5.5 million.

 

[Fogelhund]

Haha I’ve watched him play last season were you watching holl last season? Come on now

This tells me all I need to know.

 

[Budz]

I’d give him the Gio contract

 

[nuck]

If they are going to move Holl out they need to aim a bit higher. The D is pretty soft and if/when Muzz is out for any stretch they are non contact. Benn can't be played enough minutes to make a difference there. They need a slightly improved Boosh. I don't dislike PK as much as a bunch of you guys do, but with their current right side options, he isn't what they lack. Whatever wall he hit at 30, he isn't coming back from.

 

[Sypher04]

Justin Holl vs PK Subban Athletic Player Card Comparison.

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For pure cap purposes if Subban is cheap I can see this trade off making sense, but as far as effectiveness goes not sure how much better we’d be with Subban instead of Holl. And I’m all for moving Holl, just not sure PK is the guy to replace him.

I would argue the quality of their teams skew these results more than a bit, but I'm not here arguing Subban is the better player right now by any means. I do like the physicality he'd bring, among a few other qualities. I'd be interested in adding him cheap like you said.

 

[nuck]

Less risk for Stralman if they need to sign someone cheap who isn't a perfect fit.

 

[Nineteen67]

No.

 

[NJG]

TRADE: Kerfoot/Holl for picks.
TRADE: Sandin for a Defensive D-man prospect of the same value and potential.
SIGN: P.K. Subban $1M
SIGN: Aston-Reese $1M

CAP SPACE: $5,081,884 for a LW Top 6 Forward.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
T6 Forward - Tavares - Nylander
Robertson - Kampf - Jarnkrok
A.Reese - Douglas - A.Kubel

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Subban
Giordano - Liljegren

Murray - Samsonov

 

[Jacquestrapless]

Holl, at least, can step into the top 4 and play if there's an injury. Can subban, Benn, or Mete?

 

[therealkoho]

We're in agreement on the quantity but not the quality

Subban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holl

Leafs started the playoffs for the first 2 games with Holl in the pressbox as a healthy scratch (and should have left him there).

Remember this ?

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** Norris Trophy winner P.K. Subban **​

Now remember this ?

View attachment 569873
** Justin Holl delayed penalty on this pick play in game #7 **

That play happens 6 times a game, and might get called once. I don't have a clue why it was called at that point in the game, but let's just say it smelt like that jockstrap that's at the bottom of that old hockey bag that's mouldering away at the back of the clutter that's in my garage. The zebras were going to call some Leaf for something/anything sooner rather than later, and not so organically nor with any subtlety and hand Tampa some momentum they hadn't earned.

That it happened to be Holl completely changed the conversation inre the incident turning it into a blind hatefest, burying any true criticism or conversation on the incident and the many other phantom and borderline calls the Lightning seemed to mostly avoid.

 

[mapleleaf979]

PK Subban didnt play in the Soo and isnt 5-8, no chance Dubas signs him.

 

[Gabriel426]

Subban should not be an option.

 

[Niagara Bill]

NO, NO, NO!
He is an ash. Couldn't keep his mouth shut for 24 hours and before long he would cause room issues.
Why did Montreal fall out of love with him? Then his play dropped in Jersey.

He is not a leader, he is self-centered.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

If he's willing to take a 1-2 year dirt cheap deal, (800k-1sh mil) I'm not opposed to it.

He might not have any choice but to sign for league minimum (or close to)
I’d imagine the idea of playing on a big stage again in his home city would be extremely exciting for PK.
Even as a Habs fan, I feel like PK to Toronto would be a great fit and I would be beyond thrilled for him.

 

[William Hylander]

Pk is done as a player, wouldnt take him on a league min.

 

[81Leafs50]

HELL NO with a cherry on top.